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Please do not call yourselves Christians any more.

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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

Or that if this country were more socialist, they wouldn't have anything to worry about, anyway. They could rest easy that their needs will be met.




posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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Argument is not the way on educating others. Understanding is.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

so theres a country run by christians? which one?

how did you become an authority on what constitutes christian behavior and responsibilities?


As to the verses regarding accepting strangers within your borders. That was in the context of ancient Israel wasnt it? Please tell me what ancient Israel was doing in the desert for 80 years? Thats right.....slaughtering every pagan child sacrificing tribe in existence. You still wanna talk about accepting strangers? Should we talk about the conditions those strangers had to meet to be welcome? Or do you think the God that forbade Israel from even mixing fibers together in a piece of clothing would not have prescribed very stringent preconditions for coming under the protection of Israels borders and their God?

you know nought of what you speak my friend.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: ratsinacage




Vatican City is the smallest country in the world. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres, making it one-eighth the size of New York's Central Park. Vatican City is governed as an absolute monarchy with the pope at its head.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe

Most people who identify as Christian (In the truest sense of the word)? You'll likely never know what they did for another living soul because it isn't about glorifying themselves or receiving accolades of any kind. It's about far more. There are indeed those out there that do not walk the walk of a Christian as there are in anything. It's not something unique to "The Christians".


That's a good point you make and I wish it was the rule instead of the exception.
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I think also the OP is kinda wide, not every christian is saying no to refugees.
But that said, christians are required by their faith to live in a humanitarian way, and I wish they were at the forefront of this crisis to help provide solutions just as their faith prescribes.

Every category of people religious or atheist have a group of people being compassionate. Not every atheist is out there supporting refugees either, I understand the OP is saying that is the Christian faith is saying 'love thy neighbor' the good samaratin blah blah they should be more vocal in support for people who have nothing left.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Thats what I thought you'd say.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: ratsinacage
a reply to: Krazysh0t

so theres a country run by christians? which one?


I didn't say there was...


how did you become an authority on what constitutes christian behavior and responsibilities?


I used to be one... Or do you somehow think that all knowledge of how Christianity works and preaches magically goes away once you leave the religion?


As to the verses regarding accepting strangers within your borders. That was in the context of ancient Israel wasnt it? Please tell me what ancient Israel was doing in the desert for 80 years? Thats right.....slaughtering every pagan child sacrificing tribe in existence. You still wanna talk about accepting strangers? Should we talk about the conditions those strangers had to meet to be welcome? Or do you think the God that forbade Israel from even mixing fibers together in a piece of clothing would not have prescribed very stringent preconditions for coming under the protection of Israels borders and their God?


I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. I'm already well aware of the hypocrisies in the Bible. That's one of the reasons I'm not a Christian anymore.


you know nought of what you speak my friend.


Actually, I do, and you haven't refuted any of my points.
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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Those aren't Christian solutions. A Christian solution would be just accepting these people into your country, no questions asked.


Sorry, disagree with this. Being Christian does not mean being a gullible idiot by allowing those who would intentionally do harm to your family access into your borders. Though that number may be small, not checking who is coming in is insanity in this day and age. Convicted Rapist, Murderers, and Felons have no rights to enter our nation.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Dude, I'm in the same boat you are, remember? I fight on here everyday to stop the 1% from raping us all, to bring jobs back, to redistribute their obscene wealth. You don't want that, though.

You want me to personally pay your bills? I'm struggling just as hard as you are. That's why I am a proponent of socialism.

In the Democratic Socialist nations (Scandinavia and others), everybody pays in $50 bucks a month. That's it. Just $50 for universal, guaranteed health care. (Forty pounds, which I'm converting roughly in my head). Their health care is guaranteed.

The rest of their taxes (beyond that part for health care) pay into the community coffers, too. Out of that, they are educated. Housed. Fed. Protected. And they are....
wait for it.....

HAPPY. Secure. Contented.

sarcasm: Keep whining, though...it's soooo becoming on you "Christians." Adorable. /sarcasm


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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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the term Christian was first used by Paul and Barnabas when Paul came down to Antioch Ceasarea. Paul Coined it to label those who followed Christ because they were his Body.

There is no internal (in the Bible) or external to support the claim by theologians that the name was coined by unbelievers to deride the followers of Christ. that teaching was a creation of men and is nothing more than a doctrine of men.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

What's your point here, Chester?
How does it relate to the OP?



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Just because I agree with the fact that people have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that doesn't mean that I have to only think with my heart and not my head.

The migrations that I'm assuming that you're talking about occurred often times when no culture lived in the area to which they migrated--and if they did, and they wanted the area bad enough, war ensued or the invading (for lack of a better term) peoples learned to adapt, assimilate, and live in peace with the people already there.

While this is not happening everywhere, look at the island of Lesbos and tell me that the "refugees" are acting like people who should be welcomed with open arms. Look at some of the European countries turning away refugees and tell me that they can afford to support and house that many people all at once, with little-to-no notice that they were coming.

I'm not a Christian--I'm not religious or spiritual in any way. But, for you to get on your high horse and dictate to people what they can and cannot call themselves, all the while insinuating that you're some Patron Saint of Migration is utter nonsense--it's asinine. Maybe those of us who have volunteered to serve haven't fought in a civil war in our own country, but many have certainly fought in civil wars in other countries, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't pity the people running away while our men and women are over trying to help their war in some way.

If they're capable of running away to seek what they want, they're capable of fighting for what they want. I only excuse young children from that comment--women and teenagers are capable of putting up resistance just as well as men are.

You see, though, this is why we have immigration laws and procedures in the U.S. and opt to avoid an open-border policy. Europe is now reaping the rewards of that policy. Hell, we have a hard enough time with illegal immigrants even with our laws and policies.

But back to your point about your claim that this is a "mass migration" and not an "invasion"--I wonder if Native Americans would have your back on that point. After all, the colonists were just trying to seek out a better life...and they were Christians...go figure. But then again, history is relative to the side telling the story.


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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:56 PM
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Hehe, someone got some angst.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM

If they hold to Sharia above all other laws.....they are invaders.


Sounds like a certain Kim Davis doesn't it?



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Hey, I didn't say it was a realistic solution, but what I said is EXACTLY what a Christian should be aspiring to do since that is what Jesus preached.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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Yeaaaah, I just saw some videos of these poor, weary immigrants running through the streets attacking people and turning stuff over. BTW, how many immigrants are you willing to house and feed yourself?



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 01:29 PM
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The complete and utter ignorance of what Christianity is, on display in this thread (as well as a great many others regularly posted on this site), is both breathtakingly saddening, and completely unsurprising.

Denying ignorance? Not in this thread...



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

You wouldn't know if they were or if they weren't

As has been mentioned, Christians don't talk about it.

And certainly in this thread there would be no point to it. Trying to justify oneself in this kind of thread serves no purpose other to offer up fodder for the slaughter.


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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Yes I would.

I was raised by them, and am surrounded by them and was one.
Pretending they help but don't talk about it, is well just an excuse, convenient.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: ketsuko

Yes I would.

I was raised by them, and am surrounded by them and was one.
Pretending they help but don't talk about it, is well just an excuse, convenient.


How much did anyone know about Mother Teresa until she was close to the end of her career?

How much do you hear about the people who do mission work and service work day in and day out?

Not much. No one reports on it, and you don't care to find out.







 
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