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Please do not call yourselves Christians any more.

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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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oh my what heresy.

Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Remember no one before Paul (that includes Peter) taught one is forgiven of sin by belief on Christ's death burial and resurrection by faith alone. All others had works incorporated into the Kingdom Gospel. Only Paul had the gospel of the grace of God that one is saved by faith alone.

Again rightly divide the word of truth as inspired in the inspired words of God found only in the preserve word by God as promised in Ps 12:6, 7, in the Authorized Version.

to deny the writings of Paul as inspired of God and true, puts you in an unholy alliance with the Devil himself when he asked Eve, Yea, hath God said. The devil is the only one who ever questioned God's word in his word preserved for us today.

you minus well just chuck the Holy Bible out the window and start quoting the Veda's or the Egyptian book of the dead, or the Koran, yeah the Koran.

Remember the Muslim would drop you on your head for practicing Homosexuality. I at least give you the freedom to do so. I only question as to whom allows you to do it and why.




posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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Like I said, Paul never met Jesus, and he never quoted or cited any of works of Jesus.


Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.


In other words, Paul heard voices in his head. Mkay?


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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Like Mohammed PBUH. In my opinion.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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Never met him think again

Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

Sorry he not only met him he was blinded by him. Try and tell Paul he never met him.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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WinWord three things you can't prove

1) that the gospel of faith alone on the finish work of Christ is an Allegory

2) that chrsitians aren't supposed to judge

and

3) Paul never met Christ.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:03 PM
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We cannot say for sure whether or not Paul had ever met Jesus.


www.gotquestions.org...



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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I can because the Bible says so.

My Bible is without error, it is infallible, preserved, inspired, complete and whole.

In those days you could speak to someone if you hadn't been in their presence and he was in Jesus Presence.

your link was questioning if Paul ever met him during Jesus 3 1/2 year earthly ministry. that we do not know he could have but we know for a fact he did meet him on the road to Damascus.


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him


Like I said, Paul heard voices in his head.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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I can because the Bible says so.

My Bible is without error, it is infallible, preserved, inspired, complete and whole.

And this is what you believe, as you have stated numerous times.


your link was questioning if Paul ever met him during Jesus 3 1/2 year ministry. that we do not know


Exactly correct.


he could have but we know for a fact he did meet him on the road to Damascus.


No. We don't.


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:29 PM
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I can because the Bible says so.



For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home.


The Bible tells you to feed the hungry, take care of the poor and inflicted. You said that only applies to Jews, remember? Quit deflecting and come down off your Holier than Thou, High Horse.




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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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I do feed the hungry. Just gave a black family down the street three whole boxes of food. I rang the bell and left. later they came to the house to thank me seems one of our neighbors told them it was me.

I sent four boxes just last Saturday to a small church in south east Asia it has clothes and school supplies.

Our church just packed four 40foot containers and sent them to Hungry to help the Syrians refugees.

Like I said you don't know my works and so you judge me with unrighteous judgment.

the particular verse you quoted does apply to Jews of that day pre-death of Christ also.

We do help those in our area some are Christians and some are not. But we are not commanded to do it. and that is the point the body of Christ have no command to do so. We do it out of Charity and our love for our fellow man.


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:54 PM
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Whu-oh.....

you're also commanded not to boast about it, though, right??

But, you are commanded to spread the gospel.

Quite a conundrum.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 05:59 PM
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Again Chrsit said to the Jews of his day before he went to the cross as their Messiah not to let the right hand know what the left is doing. and not to sound a trumpet.

But sometimes people who claim we are not Christian because we don't look like we are doing anything need to be told what we have done. You know I was not boasting but simply sharing that winword doesn't know my works.

I also spent 15 years in the Mission field, I personally helped over 700 people come to the Lord. I have one confirmed healing, 22 baptisms, delivered one baby, and have one active church plant in the area where I served.

No conundrum for me.




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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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700 People?
Wow. My oh my.

And, question regarding this "black family" where you dropped and dashed the food.....
are they now going to church?


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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You know I was not boasting but simply sharing that winword doesn't know my works.


All I know about you is what you write here on ATS. You have written that the laws of charity and hospitality that Jesus taught don't apply to you, that they were only meant for Jews of the day. That's what I'm arguing with you about, nothing more, nothing less.

You also seem to preach that Paul trumps Jesus. I don't care about that or anything else you're using to distract from the issue at hand, hypocrisy.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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The family said they are Christians and are attending a near by church. I shared my testimony with them.

I know 700 doesn't sound like much.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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Well my online stuff is a small part of who I am so see you don't know me.

it is not about Paul trumping Jesus it is about correct division of God's word applied to the right person at the right time.

all of God's word is profitable for Doctrine, For reproof, For correction and for instruction in righteousness. You just need to study correctly as instructed in the Bible to put it in the right place.




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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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Chester, Witnesses saw Jesus crucified, witnesses saw his resurrected body leave. Paul is a false disciple. He was never taught by Christ. He had a crisis of conscience and a men only philosophy that the early catholic church wanted. That is the last I will say because I can tell you are caught up, which is good, but so is truth.

Instead of standing in judgement of others, Jesus warned us to be discerning.
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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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Again, I don't care about any of that, as far as this thread goes. My argument with your post is in regard to your claim that Jesus' teachings of hospitality and charity, and everything else he supposed taught in the book of Matthew, only applies to the Jews that lived at that time, not to you or other Christians today.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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No, not at all. It sounds like a lot. LOT of people.

In my 20 years experience, I was working with babies, kids, adults, families, teens, all of that. All told, I didn't count. I'd say ??? maybe upwards of 300? in terms of all the people I met and worked with as clients and students.....



but, it doesn't matter. I spent lots of time with them - not just handing them leaflets and quoting scripture.
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