Container with aid for "refugees" was full of weapons and ammunition

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: UnBreakable

So do we know for a fact though?

Or should we just argue from the point that it is.

I'm not arguing about it. There is the video and someone else in here posted an article www.ibtimes.com... We can argue 6 months to a year from now how extremists who snuck into Europe with the refugees are causing havoc. And how they are turning places with a lot of culture into a sh!thole just like where they came from. Funny how they aren't running to Saudi Arabia or some other ME country. Shows you what they think of the prospects from that area who still live with Iron Age beliefs.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Ya the video has no context and the ibtimes article isn't about an aid ship going to refugees.

They haven't turned anyplace into anything yet, they just got there.

And ya them not going to Saudi should show you they don't want to live like that. Maybe they like western ways more then you know.
Just because you read they don't doesn't mean it is true.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Thanks, but I get along fine here in Germany. What would you like us to do? Rounding them up, watching them die or should we better keep dumping 'em in the Mediterranean as we usually do, peering into the opposite direction.

Every terrorist would find a way into civilisation without this mess, most of them actually lived a long time among us. And you can buy weapons easily if you know where to look, a few containers full of them don't really make a big difference.

Hyperpole? Yes. All of it, except for the humanitarian crisis of course. Get a grip.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: UnBreakable
They haven't turned anyplace into anything yet, they just got there.

Ya, I know. That's why I said we'll talk about it in 6 months to a year from now. Give 'em time.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: UnBreakable

There is undoubtedly an extremist element infiltrating in this exodus, to think otherwise or to not act accordingly would represent a massive strategic failure that ultimately will result in the deaths of innocent westerners, and likely a dismantling of the beautiful democratic and free society's that have taken the west thousands of years to build.

Inviting a group of people who do not cherish such traditions and higher understanding, may in fact encourage apartheid, and civil breakdown.

Perfectly stated only I would change your final sentence to will inevitably lead to civil breakdown. There seems to be no shortage of angry young Muslim men already in Europe. It won't take much encouragement from true radicals to make them willing fighters.
They see the extreme tolerance of Western societies as a weakness and like bullies will push until they meet real resistance. They believe the West to be so decadent and self-centered we would never even raise a hand to protect our own.

Lol what's up with the favorites of that youtube channel...

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: UnBreakable
Thanks, but I get along fine here in Germany. What would you like us to do?

It might be a good idea to try and stop the mass exodus from Seria to Germany. Last time I checked, the United Arab Emirates has enough wealth to share Europe's burden and at the same time do something kind for the less fortunate in the region.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

And now add another perspective: there are already many young Europeans without job nor perspective in southern Europe, thanks to the Troika. Now imagine masses of young immigrants clashing with masses of young Europeans in open street-fights, possibly agitated by the radical right-wing partys.

I sense more danger in this scenario than in IS-hype (alone).

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Cargo bound for Immigrant Sport shooting club.
Tactical shotguns for skeet and trap shooting.
Move along, nothing to see here, just weapons for urban warfare.

Eta: even if 99.9% are just refugees, that still leaves 800 Islamic radicals out of the 800,000 expected this year.
Add to those already in Europe and you have a small army in waiting.

An army that is growing in a lot of countries around the world.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: UnBreakable

There is undoubtedly an extremist element infiltrating in this exodus, to think otherwise or to not act accordingly would represent a massive strategic failure that ultimately will result in the deaths of innocent westerners, and likely a dismantling of the beautiful democratic and free society's that have taken the west thousands of years to build.

Inviting a group of people who do not cherish such traditions and higher understanding, may in fact encourage apartheid, and civil breakdown.

They believe the West to be so decadent and self-centered we would never even raise a hand to protect our own.

They very well may believe that, and to some extent on the surface it may appear that way, however they should learn history. The west when pushed far enough becomes an unstoppable inevitable consequence. If this is a Trojan horse, if this equals the slaughter of innocent westerners, I believe this would be the last slaughter that ever takes place towards the west from Muslim extremists.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

LOL,

Here is a good one... The looks on their faces is awesome!

The truth about Muslim immigration - Janusz Korwin-Mikke (Polish MEP)

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

But you are aware of religios tensions in the Middle East? Shiites, Sunnites and Alavites stuff, you know...

So no one else thinks this was just a regular seizure that's being used for political gain?

a reply to: infolurker

The truth about Muslim immigration - Janusz Korwin-Mikke

Ah, human garbage can speak? One of the richest politicans in Poland, of course. How... adequate.

During a discussion about what constitutes rape, he asked: "Raped, what does it mean raped?"

reuters

That guy. What does it mean... human garbage?

Hm. This is interesting. An editorial in The New York Times, which makes a case for bringing Syrians to Detroit.

www.nytimes.com...

Dated May, 2015.

From the article:

Detroit, a once great city, has become an urban vacuum. Its population has fallen to around 700,000 from nearly 1.9 million in 1950. The city is estimated to have more than 70,000 abandoned buildings and 90,000 vacant lots. Meanwhile, desperate Syrians, victims of an unfathomable civil war, are fleeing to neighboring countries, with some 1.8 million in Turkey and 600,000 in Jordan.

Suppose these two social and humanitarian disasters were conjoined to produce something positive.

Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan, a Republican, has already laid the groundwork. In January 2014 he called for an infusion of 50,000 immigrants as part of a program to revitalize Detroit, and signed an executive order creating the Michigan Office for New Americans.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

LOL,

I have no idea. It was one of the videos that showed up on the side on youtube when looking for related stories.

I should have started a new thread on it as the looks on their faces is priceless.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Asktheanimals

LOL,

Here is a good one... The looks on their faces is awesome!

The truth about Muslim immigration - Janusz Korwin-Mikke (Polish MEP)

Good for him, a truthful politician describing lazy bastards who want to come to countries for free handouts. He even got it right when he said America took all the immigrants who wanted to do hard work at the start, not like Obama today.

When Europe ends up one big street brawl, local militaries will have no problem rolling tanks in the streets, it won't be their families they are rolling over it will be the freeloader foreigners.

can we deny ignorance?

2 pages of discussions and the main questions are not even adressed yet:

- where does the cargo come from?
- where was it heading to?
- who sent it?
- who was supposed to receive it?

- can someone translate the greek video?

the ibtime article is full of: "is believed that...." "can t be confirmed..."


thanks for answers

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: UnBreakable

Thanks, but I get along fine here in Germany. What would you like us to do? Rounding them up, watching them die or should we better keep dumping 'em in the Mediterranean as we usually do, peering into the opposite direction.

Every terrorist would find a way into civilisation without this mess, most of them actually lived a long time among us. And you can buy weapons easily if you know where to look, a few containers full of them don't really make a big difference.

Hyperpole? Yes. All of it, except for the humanitarian crisis of course. Get a grip.

with the words from the IS smuggler: "just wait..!"

IS terrorists among refugees? can't be!
IS terrorists recieving weapon supply? can't be!
IS terrorists on a killing spree causing chaos in europe? can't be!
till the first heads roll down the street...

better safe than sorry.

if you want to help the refugees you have to crush IS and bring peace to syria.
true peace! not the us-peace like in iraq and lybia!

a reply to: anticitizen

better safe than sorry.

So just assume they are all ISIS operatives then?