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Evidence for entropy in virus genome

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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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You apparently missed this in the article:

Glotzer explains that this isn't really disorder creating order—entropy needs its image updated. Instead, she describes it as a measure of possibilities. If you could turn off gravity and empty a bag full of dice into a jar, the floating dice would point every which way. However, if you keep adding dice, eventually space becomes so limited that the dice have more options to align face-to-face. The same thing happens to the nanoparticles, which are so small that they feel entropy's influence more strongly than gravity's.

"It's all about options. In this case, ordered arrangements produce the most possibilities, the most options. It's counterintuitive, to be sure,"

Entropy is a thermodynamic quantity of a system that is not available for any type of work. It's hidden. It can't be used. As the author said, the old terminology of "disorder" like the shoes in your closet, is not entropy. It's simply a sloppy closet full of disordered shoes.

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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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He doesn't need data Phantom, his own incredulity is the only data point I've seen him mention in this whole thread.

He thinks evolution is a conspiracy, for reasons I cannot figure out. So if somehow evolution is false he thinks it confirms his creator belief. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Even if TinFoil produced actual evidence that totally dismantled evolution we would be no closer to proving his Creator, be it God, gods, or aliens or whatever.

This whole thing is one big argument from incredulity as he moves the goalposts from various topics related to evolution and gets squashed on each one. And then he admits that evolution DOES take place but just calls it adaptation. It's a pointless merry-go-round of troll feeding that I am both amused and dismayed to be watching and participating in.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: Titen-Sxull

Of course, you are correct. It's just so frustrating.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Phantom423
You apparently missed this in the article:

Glotzer explains that this isn't really disorder creating order—entropy needs its image updated. Instead, she describes it as a measure of possibilities. If you could turn off gravity and empty a bag full of dice into a jar, the floating dice would point every which way. However, if you keep adding dice, eventually space becomes so limited that the dice have more options to align face-to-face. The same thing happens to the nanoparticles, which are so small that they feel entropy's influence more strongly than gravity's.

"It's all about options. In this case, ordered arrangements produce the most possibilities, the most options. It's counterintuitive, to be sure,"

Entropy is a thermodynamic quantity of a system that is not available for any type of work. It's hidden. It can't be used. As the author said, the old terminology of "disorder" like the shoes in your closet, is not entropy. It's simply a sloppy closet full of disordered shoes.


So she has to change the definition of entropy to say entropy is causing order......making up the rules as they go along.

Maybe we can all pick words in the dictionary that are used to define Physics and magic bang boom, we bend physics to our will. Comical.



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Phantom423
You apparently missed this in the article:

Glotzer explains that this isn't really disorder creating order—entropy needs its image updated. Instead, she describes it as a measure of possibilities. If you could turn off gravity and empty a bag full of dice into a jar, the floating dice would point every which way. However, if you keep adding dice, eventually space becomes so limited that the dice have more options to align face-to-face. The same thing happens to the nanoparticles, which are so small that they feel entropy's influence more strongly than gravity's.

"It's all about options. In this case, ordered arrangements produce the most possibilities, the most options. It's counterintuitive, to be sure,"

Entropy is a thermodynamic quantity of a system that is not available for any type of work. It's hidden. It can't be used. As the author said, the old terminology of "disorder" like the shoes in your closet, is not entropy. It's simply a sloppy closet full of disordered shoes.


So she has to change the definition of entropy to say entropy is causing order......making up the rules as they go along.

Maybe we can all pick words in the dictionary that are used to define Physics and magic bang boom, we bend physics to our will. Comical.


You don't understand physics. You don't know the definitions. You don't why the term "disorder" is a misnomer.

You pick your words in a dictionary. The rest of us do the hard research that progresses to greater understanding of the world that we live in. You stick to your definition. Just don't forget to straighten out the shoes in your closet occasionally. You wouldn't want entropy to prevail!


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posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 02:02 AM
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originally posted by: AnuTyr
I think tinfoil is just trying to make a point that all the life on Earth could of been seeded by a higher consiousness.

It's much more likely than all this complexity arising from nothing. Life takes ingredients in matter and multiplies based on it.


Who knows, maybe Earth was seeded like you said but there is NO evidence of that!

And we go back to the chicken and egg question: if aliens seeded us, who seeded them?




originally posted by: AnuTyr
It might even be possible that for such a thing to happen for the ratio of oxygen to be so high there would have to be more land mass. More land mass means less water.

So if there was less water during the time of the dinosaurs. How did all this exass water arrive on our tiny green dot orbiting our small star?


Have you ever heard of the carboniferous period? The Earth was very warm and there was a boom of vegetation, giant trees, enormous giant forests that removed huge amounts of CO2 which lead to a surplus of O2 which lead to animals growing in size to cope and not die of O2 poisoning.

There was never more landmass. There was never less water. Water was not transported to our planet by your alien friends.

I despair sometimes....... why can't you go and read a good biology book instead of making up fictitious answers in your head?




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