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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: RomeByFire
Because there are state social programs does not mean a state is socialist. Typical non-sequitor.
“The only response we can have if Boeing executives do not agree to keep the plant here is for the machinists to say the machines are here, the workers are here, we will do the job, we don't need the executives. The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do,” she said. Sawant says after workers “take-over” the Everett Boeing plant; they could build things everyone can use. “We can re-tool the machines to produce mass transit like buses, instead of destructive, you know, war machines,” she told KIRO 7.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
Yeah screw the guys who are too ill to work, let em starve.
That person working two jobs doesn't deserve food stamps just because she is not getting enough to feed her family but lets give the company she works for handouts which cost many more times the social bill.
Screw those guys I'm doing fine.
originally posted by: neveroddoreven99
a reply to: dreamingawake
In some parts of the country the trash collection is done by the city. Where I live it's done by private companies, and you pay a bill for it. Why do you think Waste Management exists? Do corporations receive government subsidies for their trash collection? Sounds like you'd prefer it if they did.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: luciddream
"Socialism is simply Communism for people without the testosterone to man the barricades."
Gary North is an idiot that wants America to become a Christian theocracy. Here is a little something else the moron wants.
North favors capital punishment for a range of offenders; including women who lie about their virginity, blasphemers, nonbelievers, children who curse their parents, male homosexuals, and other people who commit acts deemed capital offenses in the Old Testament. North also favors capital punishment for women who have abortions. North stated that the biblical admonition to kill homosexuals in Leviticus is God's "law and its morally appropriate sanction", arguing that "God is indeed a homophobe" who "hates the practice [of homosexuality] and those who practice it" and "hates the sin and hates the sinner." North has said that capital punishment should be carried out by stoning, because it is the biblically approved method of execution and it is cheap due to the plentiful and convenient supply of stones.
originally posted by: theMediator
Is freedom the freedom of letting others die? The freedom to have no roads? The freedom to have no health care? The freedom to have no army? The freedom to have no education? The freedom to have no home?
No all that counts is the freedom to keep your #ing money because you rather spoil it yourself than let others that YOU feel didn't deserve it. Whatever deserves stands for...as if people really had what they deserved. Some people have it all without even trying while some work and work and work all their lives and nothing good ever happens. Deserve is something that happened 500 years ago when you could get free land and build yourself a life. DING DING, HELLO? This world, doesn't exist anymore! Stop clinging to the way of the apes and think that it's better. It's not better, it un-evolved, primitive, long due, too bad so sad
I know that whatever we do, we need to change the people up there but we never really tried socialism in a world that's not controlled by a wealthy elite, we never really tried with all the technologies we have today, we never really tried all together instead of fighting each other.
We've tried "laissez aller" and it clearly doesn't work.
Money brings power, power corrupts and monopolies are inevitable.
So you can fight against the current all you want, drown in it with a disturbed and selfish sense of pride or see the obvious.
Seems like a no brainer to me unless that's what you are lacking.
originally posted by: greencmp
"I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money."