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posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Ooooh, can I make the working-poor pay?


If deemed good enough for the job, you could actually get payed more than welfare for installing while investing your time and dignity for the future of society. Looking back, you'll know that everyday, the value of your labor will be enjoyed by more than your immediate family.




posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: theMediator

What if I need like 100x more than welfare?

I like to get my shine on.



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
I would think being able to access more porn even faster is all the advantage one would need to outweigh these so-called-expenses.


So you want the porn industry to pick up most of the tab?
Now that sounds like a plan! :p



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: theMediator

The way I see it, advances in internet speed and porn go hand-in-hand. (ehheheheh)



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: theMediator

originally posted by: DBCowboy
In a democracy, you can talk about communism, but in a communist country, you can't talk about democracy.
Does anyone ever wonder why?


What I wonder why, is why people mix communism with socialism and then use their ignorance for an argument.


It was a simple question.
I suppose that you could use Venezuela as an example as well.



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: theMediator

What if I need like 100x more than welfare?

I like to get my shine on.


Need is a subjective word...which need would be attained? Basic ones or egoistical ones?
Work for it and you deserve more but highly egoistical needs come after everyone's basic needs.



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: theMediator

The way I see it, advances in internet speed and porn go hand-in-hand. (ehheheheh)


I wouldn't be surprised if porn is one of the reasons internet became popular!


I remember working for an internet company and once selling a big plan solely on the promise of better porn than pay per view hehe



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
It was a simple question.
I suppose that you could use Venezuela as an example as well.


Yes we could use Venezuela for example of how socialist countries that do not have central banks by the world elite have ALWAYS been bombarded with sanctions by other countries just to make suuuuure that they don't succeed.

Search "venezuela sanctions from US" on google.

Great example, thank you.



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:58 PM
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Hello comrades, are you ready for collectivist farming, yes?


Listing social programs is different from actual socialism.



originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: luciddream
Half the people here have no idea what the difference between socialism and communism is... probably brainwashed bunch for the red scare era.

How do you think your garbage is collected evey week? by some evil socialist program!


USSR stands for what exactly?

Communist Russia?

Or

United Soviet socialist republic?

I will let you take your time..

BTW it isn't socialism that picks up my trash it is capitalism, rays trash is a privately owned and operated company that contracts with many of the local government bodies in central indiana.

Nice try?



Not really!!!


Even if i don't use my trash services I still have to pay for some. How's that for Socialis...I mean Comuni...Fascism... Crony Capitalism!



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Lysergic

How do I get me some socialist fiber net connection?


Easy.

Convince somebody else to pay for it.



Ooooh, can I make the working-poor pay?


That's easier yet.

Government can raise sales tax on food.




posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: johnwick

Or since I actually served my time to protect freedom and the democratic republican government of this nation, you can gtfo to any of a number of your idiotic socialist utopias at your whim!!!

We don't want that retarded crap, take it back where you found it and live there with it!

Regarding the bold...ROTFL, maybe you should have served some time in remedial adult education instead?

And Johhny boy, why oh why would you bother enlisting to protect freedoms (that politicians & legalese give us the right to have, not foreigners, the military, etc) if you're going to have a hissy fit over someone exercising their right to free speech? Hmm?


Where did I say he couldn't speak his mind?

I just offered a more realistic counter offer.

At the same time pointing out I have already committed myself to this current form of government.

And pointed out, how easy it was for the op to leave to one of his socialist utopias

I mean they are all over, hell he doesn't even have to fly or take a boat

Hell just get in his car and drive south....

Or get in a small boat or plane, I'm sure Cuba will be much more to his liking
I mean, Cuba Venezuela....

They are both really close and everything the op obviously wants

Why change this nation into Cuba or Venezuela?

Why not just go to the utopia that already exists?

BTW lol, nice attempt at attacking me not my points.... Isn't that rule number 6 in rules for radicals when you can't argue the merits of your point?

Edited-...... Yes autocorrect... I Know you hate me... Plz stop!!!! Seriously!!!!! Plz stop!!!!!
edit on 8-9-2015 by johnwick because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

Oh wow, a link to a Daily Kos article (a liberal blog) and a bunch of links to things like the wiki page on US welfare and other social spending programs that are EXACTLY what many of us are ranting about and want to see excised from this country's body before they metastasize and spread their damn cancer through the entire system.

Thanks, this is actually great stuff highlighting exactly *why* socialism is a horrible idea.

From the first link on the list, in fact: en.wikipedia.org...

Not including Social Security and Medicare, Congress allocated almost $717 billion in Federal funds in 2010 plus $210 billion was allocated in state funds ($927 billion total) for means tested welfare programs in the United States—later (after 2010) expenditures are unknown but likely higher.


HOLY BALLS! Nearly a trillion dollars in subsidies, handouts, and vote securities redistributed from the blood, sweat, and tears of those of us working the hardest. What a goddamned disgrace. You know, I'll pass on your little GTFO suggestion... I think I'll just continue to stand and fight against this, waiting for Atlas to finally shrug and natural selection to rebalance the scales of America.



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: theMediator

originally posted by: xuenchen
Convince somebody else to pay for it.


Convince your population and then government to see how it's a logical investment that will bring more advantages to society than the value of their expenses.

I hope that's not too logical.


I would think being able to access more porn even faster is all the advantage one would need to outweigh these so-called-expenses.


I just spit out " chillable red".......


I hope you are happy!!!!


Gggrrrrff!!!

I would cuss excessively, but your point was well made and well timed....good form!!




posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: theMediator

The way I see it, advances in internet speed and porn go hand-in-hand. (ehheheheh)


No seriously, you are absolutely right on the money with this!!!

It is a known fact!!!!

Capitalism at its finest!!!!



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
Hello comrades, are you ready for collectivist farming, yes?


Listing social programs is different from actual socialism.



originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: luciddream
Half the people here have no idea what the difference between socialism and communism is... probably brainwashed bunch for the red scare era.

How do you think your garbage is collected evey week? by some evil socialist program!


USSR stands for what exactly?

Communist Russia?

Or

United Soviet socialist republic?

I will let you take your time..

BTW it isn't socialism that picks up my trash it is capitalism, rays trash is a privately owned and operated company that contracts with many of the local government bodies in central indiana.

Nice try?



Not really!!!


Even if i don't use my trash services I still have to pay for some. How's that for Socialis...I mean Comuni...Fascism... Crony Capitalism!



I had to start you, you nailed that one!!

Would live to argue it...
But it wouldn't be genuine johnwick, it would be Sudo johnwick at best.... 1 calorie... Just not the real thing



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: johnwick

You can't argue with these idiots. Freeloaders wanting someone else's piece of the pie too. Smoke your plant Rome, then b$tch about why you can't get rich flipping hamburgers.
I don't agree for all the reasons we go to war, but I am very thankful and humbled by those men and women doing their duty. Take Nam for instance. Graduate, then forced to war and fight with your brothers or die, or go to jail.
I'm ready for our military to follow the "domestic enemy" part of their oath and take our country back. I'll join that fight right now.
edit on 8-9-2015 by TexasTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: RomeByFire

Oh wow, a link to a Daily Kos article (a liberal blog) and a bunch of links to things like the wiki page on US welfare and other social spending programs that are EXACTLY what many of us are ranting about and want to see excised from this country's body before they metastasize and spread their damn cancer through the entire system.

Thanks, this is actually great stuff highlighting exactly *why* socialism is a horrible idea.

From the first link on the list, in fact: en.wikipedia.org...

Not including Social Security and Medicare, Congress allocated almost $717 billion in Federal funds in 2010 plus $210 billion was allocated in state funds ($927 billion total) for means tested welfare programs in the United States—later (after 2010) expenditures are unknown but likely higher.


HOLY BALLS! Nearly a trillion dollars in subsidies, handouts, and vote securities redistributed from the blood, sweat, and tears of those of us working the hardest. What a goddamned disgrace. You know, I'll pass on your little GTFO suggestion... I think I'll just continue to stand and fight against this, waiting for Atlas to finally shrug and natural selection to rebalance the scales of America.


Alas....I'm on your side brother.... Only when these crazy city kids get a true taste of the real world...... But by the time it happens.... It will be too late for them to come and lute us country folks


I bet me and my neighbors can survive without a single city slicker much better than they can survive without a single country boy!!!!

BTW, when they cause it all to come crashing down because of their idiocy, I hope they know they aren't coming for what is ours, we have all the guns...

Good luck to them, they are gonna need it!!



posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: TexasTruth
a reply to: johnwick

You can't argue with these idiots. Freeloaders wanting someone else's piece of the pie too. Smoke your plant Rome, then b$tch about why you can't get rich flipping hamburgers.
I don't agree for all the reasons we go to war, but I am very thankful and humbled by those men and women doing their duty. Take Nam for instance. Graduate, then forced to war and fight with your brothers or die, or go to jail.
I'm ready for our military to follow the "domestic enemy" part of their oath and take our country back. I'll join that fight right now.


Brother, it isn't for us to decide, that is a military coup.

If the civies rise up...... Then we would be on!!!

Until that time.....just watch your 6 and keep your powder dry!

Many if us know and see the problems, but we are the " back up", the civies have to make to first move, otherwise we are the dictators.



posted on Sep, 9 2015 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: johnwick




Capitalism has always led to higher living standards for the citizens of said country, as well as more freedom


Okay so we are a capitalist society,have you read the patriot act? How are we free when someone can send a drone after us and shoot and kill us with no trial,lawyer,or jury? Our rights have been stomped on.That constitution is falling apart in more ways than one right now. The police can film you while they arrest you,but you better not film them!They get all kinds of angry over that. I could go on and on till the sun rises again. No one fought for my freedom in any other country. No other country was trying to take it away from me,only my own government,and no one protected it when they did it.



posted on Sep, 9 2015 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: johnwick




Capitalism has always led to higher living standards for the citizens of said country, as well as more freedom


Okay so we are a capitalist society,have you read the patriot act? How are we free when someone can send a drone after us and shoot and kill us with no trial,lawyer,or jury? Our rights have been stomped on.That constitution is falling apart in more ways than one right now. The police can film you while they arrest you,but you better not film them!They get all kinds of angry over that. I could go on and on till the sun rises again. No one fought for my freedom in any other country. No other country was trying to take it away from me,only my own government,and no one protected it when they did it.



" if you can read this, thank a teacher!

If you can read this in English, thank a soldier! "- unknown world war 2

I feel your pain brother!!!

I really do, but name one time anywhere in all recorded history it was better.....

It is not perfect, obviously, but it is much better than the other options.

Or would you prefer china where sites like ATS can't be accessed?

Or like north Korea, where you can be killed at a whim from the party leaders?

Or like Venezuela, where you can't even buy TP?

Just saying man, it can be much much much worse!!!

Here one man can still stand up against the feds.

Cloven Bundy, though I thought him wrong, told the feds to sod off, what happened?

Drone strike?

Police execution?

No they #ed off like he told them to.

Ever hear of that in China?

How about a single socialist govt in human history?

Now do you see the difference?
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