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originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
You simply cannot win an argument with a person who is insane. A sane person listening to your presentation may become convinced, but there is no way of convincing a person who is not sane of anything. For example, Lets say I am holding a pineapple in my hand and claim that it is a pineapple, but another person in the room instead claims that it is a tv remote. I would be completely incapable of refuting this persons claim as I would have no stronger proof other than a pineapple being in my hand. This person and I would have a fundamental disagreement about reality, and the only solution to this would be to the resolution of a mental illness. I find the above example, parallels to the discussions I have upon morality. For example I may say that torturing babies for pleasure is objectively evil. Yet there are those who would argue that morality is based on the subjective whims of each individual person. Those who argue this are simply calling my pineapple a tv remote. There is a fundamental disagreement about reality.
I have no stronger argument that the torturing babies for pleasure is objectively evil independently of anyone’s subjective preference than the self-evident fact that torturing babies is objectively evil. I cannot hope to convince anyone who disagrees with such things that objective morality is the truth behind reality as they simply are not in touch with reality.
originally posted by: yulka
If i speak the truth, everyone is gonna see me as a insane person, so i just play along, listening. In this world everyone is probably insane. The few who are not, are probably considered insane.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
It's not impossible, but it is a fantastic challenge. If you ever want to try, stop by the chemtrail forum.
originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: Isurrender73
Hey you like the World war Z scenario?
originally posted by: yulka
If i speak the truth, everyone is gonna see me as a insane person, so i just play along, listening. In this world everyone is probably insane. The few who are not, are probably considered insane.
The diagnosis of mental illness is always a weapon ~ Dr. Jeffrey Schaler
The truth is "hate speech" only to those who have something to hide. ~ Michael Rivero
"The louder the opposition protests, the more I know I am on the right track." Zorgon
Ignorant people want to punish you for speaking the truth ~ Ghandi
The man who tells the truth is universally disliked by every person because every person has an agenda and is hiding behind a fantasy which the truth penetrates like an arrow and leaves him stripped naked before the whole universe, and he does not like that." ~ Milton William Cooper
There are few nudities so objectionable as the naked truth. ~ Agnes Repplier
“Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion — and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion… while truth again reverts to a new minority.” ~ Søren Kierkegaard
But I clearly stated that I was holding a pineapple, and claimed it to be a pineapple. Just because the analogy can be reversed means nothing.
You seem to think just because a large group of people call something good that it means that is actually the case.
And you and I have a fundamental disagreement about reality.
Doesn't matter if those people thought what they were doing was a good thing it simply was not...
...and there is no way for me to convince you of that other than to again point you to the self-evident truth that the murder of babies for pleasure is wrong.