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Official spokesperson from Secret Space program about "big picture", Aug 31/15 (Randy Cramer)?

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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE




Brigadier Smythe may have been using a pseudonym (again does this ever happen in super black projects?) and that was the name that Randy Cramer knew him by.


Or he picked a dead Brigadier General to say he was the boss.

Once he says he was given the direct okay from his boss BG Julian Smythe and we see that man is dead long before he was given the permission to disclose the Mars colonies what does that say about his credibility?



He in this video he is one of the most articulate, intelligent and funny at times person I have seen in a while, but that of course is just my opinion, I don't get the sense he is lying.


If you actually research him you would see he is definitely not telling the truth...but of course there are those who believe this story such as yourself and are afraid to find the truth...why is that?



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

The Nazi's only knew of selective breeding - Mendelian Genetics - not genetic engineering as we know it. The "science" of eugenics, which they championed simply did not work. They were unable to engineer their "Lebensborn Übermenschen". This was largely because they were wrong and their 'science' was rhetoric, not true science.

The definition and structure of the DNA molecule was discovered by Francis Crick, James D. Watson, Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin, in 1953. The 3-base-pair coding that was required to produce the 22 known amino acids was suggested by the Physicist George Gamow in the same year.

The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR), vital to laboratory replication of DNA and therefore a requirement genetic engineering, was not discovered until 1971.

Most genetic Engineering techniques (there are about 7 of them) arose after 1980.



This is a good point, he does say mid-sixties. But then again military tech can be years or decades ahead of what is released to the public, and who knows what tech they gleaned from other sources. Certainly there have been many rumors of deals made between the government and certain ET races which allowed humans to be abducted in exchange for ET tech, the government reasoning being the abductions were going to happen anyway and at that point they couldn't do much to stop them - so they might as well get whatever advantage they could.




Genetic engineering to remove the parts of the human brain that deal with emotion would create, at the least, psychopaths. In a worst case scenario, their brains simply would not function. This is assuming that such functions are hard wired to a particular area of the brain and are not a distributed function of the whole neural network. I would posit that such functions are distributed and are 'software' rather than 'hardware', but in the case of a self organizing neural net such as the brain, the distinctions become blurred.


I don't think they genetically removed parts of the brain, just altered the genes to express differently, for example try to grow slightly those areas useful for such work as the Parietal lobe, and reduce the limbic system to reduce emotions.....for example........sure the brain has distributed networks to some extent, but brain studies have shown deceased or even sometimes live patients with enlarged or reduced/damaged areas compared to normal areas of the brain show concomitant enhancement or diminishment in the associated abilities.








If they were genetically engineering things of such finesse as was suggested, then simple things like removing genes giving a propensity for impaired vision would be trivial. I would think 20/20 vision would be a requirement of a super soldier.



I don't know, how easy would it be to predict one set of genes had such a pre-existing condition? Isn't it easier to target certain genes you want expressed differently or to enhance as opposed to checking the fitness of every gene?





Muscles are useless unless they have something to push against. In low or no gravity situations, especially in space, someone who is "the muscle" is essentially ballast. Dead weight to have to move around. The requirement in that environment is for highly technically competent people. Physical strength can be achieved, beyond human parameters, by technology.

Why would any space defense program carry around 180 kilograms of useless meat?



Most whistleblowers or otherwise that have come out to speak about these programs (like Ben Rich, ex Lockheed CEO) have said the tech in these programs is far in advance of what we have now, and most craft have gravity generating technology. You can't apply parameters that are applicable to the space shuttle or similar programs.

Doesn't it seem incredulous to you that in the sixties we had rotary dial phone technology and today we have smart phones - such a great leap in tech, yet the propulsion of spacecraft has barely advanced since that time - and you think they would be throwing more money and research at such a problem.........with all its military potentialities.......





Honestly, this is just a gee-whiz story. It does not stand up well to analysis.


You are entitled to your opinion..........and that is all it is........
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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I'm actually not from the US


I was referring to the comedian who made the video.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE



Or he picked a dead Brigadier General to say he was the boss.

Once he says he was given the direct okay from his boss BG Julian Smythe and we see that man is dead long before he was given the permission to disclose the Mars colonies what does that say about his credibility?



I think you are grasping at straws. Why would he choose an obviously dead person? He thought no one would think to check up on that? Build this amazing story and have it fall apart because of an easy obvious oversight?

I think it is more likely that, as I said, in these black projects people use pseudonyms all the time - who cares where the name came from? It is not a real name - that is all.

If your case that this is fake is relying on this I think your case is very weak - you're going to have to do better.





If you actually research him you would see he is definitely not telling the truth...but of course there are those who believe this story such as yourself and are afraid to find the truth...why is that?


You keep saying this with nothing to back it up.

Its fake because its not in the MSM?

Its fake because it was debunked on Metabunk?

Its fake because NASA is telling all that is happening in the Solar System?

Its fake because the government or science hasn't told us? We didn't learn about it in school?

I relish the truth. That is why the website is here, that is why some of us are here.

I really enjoy discussing controversial topics like this. I am definitely open about this either way, it could be true, it could be fake, it could be a bit of both.

Really, if topics like this are scary to your belief systems maybe you should stick to websites with less controversial topics, I hear Huffington Post is nice............



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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He thought no one would think to check up on that?

Yes. His sort of audience (you) doesn't usually do things like that.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE



He thought no one would think to check up on that?

Yes. His sort of audience (you) doesn't usually do things like that.



Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy that because some would not check up is equated with none would check up?



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy that because some would not check up is equated with none would check up?

No. It's called knowing your audience and understanding that they don't care about facts.

It's called relying on the confirmation bias of your audience. It's called not caring that people will call bullcrap because there are always enough that will believe you no matter what.

It's called knowing that you can fool some of the people all of the time.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 05:46 PM
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If said secret space operative has permission
to disclose , I would expect/demand the
POTUS to be standing next to him ,
nodding appropriately .... and adding to the
narrative .

..then there's the bit about Insects and rodents
on Mars ? (raise eyebrows,roll eyes )




posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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I think you are grasping at straws. Why would he choose an obviously dead person?


Actually believing that this man is telling the truth is grasping at straws.

Why wouldn't he...dead men tell no lies.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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You keep saying this with nothing to back it up.

Its fake because its not in the MSM?

Its fake because it was debunked on Metabunk?

Its fake because NASA is telling all that is happening in the Solar System?

Its fake because the government or science hasn't told us? We didn't learn about it in school?


So where did I say it was fake because it isn't in MSM?

When did I say anything about metabunk?

You do understand NASA doesn't own space?

Where did I say anything about the government having to tell me something is , or isn't fake?

Or because we weren't taught it in school?



Really, if topics like this are scary to your belief systems maybe you should stick to websites with less controversial topics, I hear Huffington Post is nice............


What someone's fairy tale is a scare to my beliefs system...really?

Seems someone doesn't like his beliefs questioned as it has been done here...but feel free to enjoy the fable, but when you get some actual evidence to show this man correct feel free to post it.

Oh and it's fake because it never happened.
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: welshreduk
Gotta love the title...

"Official spokesperson from Secret Space program"

So it's a "secret" space program but they have "official" spokespersons? Wow!


So do you think it is a possibility even or are you closed minded to the idea?

What other secret program the government denies exists has an official spokesperson?



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 07:56 PM
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what a load of bull# LOL!
this guy would be long dead if it was true in any fashion.
the guy blows more than whistles I think.
he even has merchandise for sale ha ha ha



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 07:58 PM
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He says he is not a "whistleblower", and his Brigadier General has given him permission to come forward and speak about these issues


Probably the most top secret program in the history of mankind and his commanding officer says it's ok to spill everything he knows.
And you believe that.
If we were going to learn of something like this, it wouldn't be on Youtube, it would be in an Address to the Nation, by the President, Joint Chiefs, JSOC and every bit of top brass in the U.S military.
Not one lone "super soldier" so genetically advanced he needs glasses.
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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If you want to discredit anyone that may have actual real information about the secret military space program, you would have someone like this make all kinds of wild claims.

A guy like this making these claims muddies the water and paints anyone else who comes forward with any information as crazy or insane.

This guy's story also presents people with a bunch of false rabbit holes to go down, keeping the real focus off other areas that may yield real information.

There's a lot more going on than what we're told -- but I doubt any of that information would come from this guy. Who knows, he may actually believe his own story. At least he got the branches right (Marines). It would be the Navy that does the space stuff beyond low Earth orbit.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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That's not how the military or government works.

You don't give some solder permission to make announcements like this, and spill the beans.

Allowing classified information forth into the public is normally done by the high ranking brass or politicians. That's simply how it is done and has been done in the past.

Not some nut case on a YouTube video.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:11 PM
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Remember, we're talking about a space program so secret that even NASA astronauts in orbit don't know about it. I feel bad for those NASA guys, they're stuck in that dumpy ISS for months on end, playing with plants and floating M&M's around. When their time is over, they have to climb into a Russian Soyuz and pray like hell they make it home alive.

They better never tell those NASA astronauts about the "other" space program, they'd be probably be pretty upset there are better, more comfortable ways to explore space. I would be...



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:11 PM
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A: Mostly patrol, sometimes intercept with the Solar Warden and Radiant Guardian fleets - the two Solar system fleets like the Atlantic and Pacific fleets


I think there is a high probability that this would be like a guy in a 14 foot fishing boat with outboard motor intercepting a US navy air craft carrier.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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How can I get in touch with Randy? I have some plots on the Moon and a few asteroids to sell and I think he can handle the gig.

Yes, there definitely is a space force. I've mentioned and given data for it several times on ATS. The triangles are obvious space capable which means that the Moon and Mars if not assorted asteroids are reached in ships that have taken the place of the death-trap shuttle and manned flights by pure rockets.

Now, Randy may be a spokesman for the secret space program as a clever ploy to get people to tune out any serious talk that they may hear otherwise about a secret space program, but I doubt it.



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