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Donald Trump exposed: Ties to the mob, lack of wealth and more.

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posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 03:36 PM
a reply to: EverydayInVA

It isn't, which is why he is exactly like them.

posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 04:33 PM
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Politics is politics yes.

The two parties we are given to choose from in 2016 are not, however, the same.

The philosophies are different. The priorities are different. The underlying assumptions of the two parties ... are different.

The people who support one or the other ... are different.

The old "both sides are the same" meme is always followed by "so I'm choosing the lesser of two evils."

Also, "both sides are the same" is just another ploy in the arsenal of apathy.

posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 09:51 PM

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

So since Bush did a bad job he must be a progressive socialist?
Care to elaborate? Would his running mate Dick Cheney be the same?

Who is the 12% of congress that is ok, or is that just some random stat you made up.

No, but since he GREW THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT, lessened freedoms, expanded most all welfare, started new government bodies for services. You know, like using the government position to curtail freedoms with the NDAA, strengthened the drug war putting more non-violent people behind bars and grew the USA's criminal system and prisons much much more. Those are all progressive things, and he did so much more that fits the idealism of socialism.

You think a progressive is a label you want to call your own and not have a Bush associated with it.. Then go with that..

Bush GW, is the most progressive republican president ever in our history. He also increased fees for most federal services to the public by 1000 percent in many cases, one of which are immigration fees applying for Visa's, student visa's, Fiance' visa's and many others. I know, because I paid for someone to immigrate here and paid all the fee's just prior to Bush's little stunt. He grew the size of government every place he could, and he invented new ways to do it.

Bush's mindset was very progressive for a republican president and it is one of the reasons he sucked so bad, and I have never liked any progressive. It sure is a nice way to get yourself wealthy and give your donors lots of rich rewards abusing the system and growing government to immense levels where they begin cannibalizing the citizens and fees, and social security, and all the rest, looking for ways to make a lot more cash. Understand? Probably no, you don't, so go ahead and just make up something which placates your idealist reality.

posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 04:59 PM

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: muse7

Thank you for this. Show him for who he really is..A liar and a cheater.

Name a single candidate is either party who isn't. It's like a requirement. The list of who isn't would be much shorter. But I'm sure whoever someone is supporting is on the short list, the others are the problem.

Bernie Sanders.

Crazy how people on this site support Sanders so much but we all know what socialism and socialist governments do to our privacy.

Did Socialists create the NSA and the Patriot Act?

They created the FISA ACT-CARTER.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA" Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch. 36) is a United States federal law which prescribes procedures for the physical and electronic surveillance and collection of "foreign intelligence information" between "foreign powers" and "agents of foreign powers

They created the Omnibus Counter Terroism ACT in the 90s.-CLINTON.

CNET reported in 2008: Months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of “terrorism” that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detention of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review.* The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode “constitutional and statutory due process protections” and would “authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and assocLink

And TRUMAN that 'socialist' created the NSA back in '52'.



How many threads are you going to post something that isn't true?

So many stars. So many wrong.

posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 07:29 PM
a reply to: muse7

Trump Tower was built by S&A Concrete, whose owners were “Fat” Tony Salerno, head of the Genovese crime family, and Paul “Big Paul” Castellano, head of the Gambinos, another well-known crime family.

A great deal of Manhattan was built by S&A Concrete, government buildings included, state and federal.
edit on 7-9-2015 by charlyv because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 7 2015 @ 10:18 PM
OK, let’s see... what I’ve picked up so far from this thread reminds me of an internal struggle between the collective ego vs alter-ego. I can picture some struggling lower-middle class dude sitting in front of the tube, intensely focussing on every word crawling out of the Fox/MSNBC/CNN news anchor’s totally biased, uninformed mouth. Doesn’t matter the news station of choice. Whatever comes spewing out of that box has got to be the Gospel truth, and another confirmation of his/her chosen reality.

Meanwhile, sitting on the tube dude’s shoulder is his alter-ego. That nasty little trouble-maker constantly trying to sh*t on his parade. Everytime he listens to him it always ends in disaster. This time his little helper is whispering in his ear, “Look Pops, first we knockoff the bank, and THEN we go visit the grandkids. Piece o’ cake...”

I know it’s stupid, and I don’t know why, but these political threads often make me think of that.

In this thread so far, what I’ve gathered is:

Donald Trump is a self-serving, tax evading, mafia supporting, lying charlatan who has no real solutions and just tells us naive, gullible suckers what we want to hear. Umm, OK. I can go along with that.

On the other hand, Trump is a non-establishment, truth telling, leader of leaders who can get things done and will bring true change to America. He’s our only chance to save America.

Socialism is not a 4-letter word, and America could use a healthy dose of it. Bernie’s the Man. Otherwise we are doomed to the evil forces unleashed by the greedy, self-serving, corporate monsters breathing the fires of a Capitalist Oligarchy.

Socialism is an evil ideology. Along with socialism comes a lazy, complacent, unmotivated population completely under the control of a vast, overreaching governmental machine. It breeds an entitlement mentality of unproductive, uneducated, brainwashed government zombies.

Personally, I find the thought of Trump as President to be a little bit disquieting and even scary. I never thought he would make it this far, but he did. I can’t imagine he will actually win the Presidency, but he might. And if this is what America really wants, then I guess it’s what America deserves. More and more my faith in the collective wisdom of the electorate is dwindling away. I think we’ve changed in some fundamental way over the past 30 years. And not in a good way. It seems to me we’ve become an angry, dumbed-down, desperate, self-centered society with a reality show mentality. It’s sad...

I wish someone with solid solutions and a grand vision for the future would surface and gain support. But I just don’t see it happening. Sometimes it seems to me as a country we’ve entered free-fall. It’s still a way down there, but we’re falling fast, and when we do hit the hard ground - SPLAT!!! It will be ugly.

Let Freedom Ring...

posted on Sep, 8 2015 @ 06:32 AM

originally posted by: stolencar18
Did it ever occur to you that people know Trump's nose isn't clean? And perhaps people know that Bush/Clinton/Sanders/(insert rest of the candidates here) are also dirtbags?

I mean this with respect...and no diss against you personally: Anyone who thinks this election is about finding a white knight with a spotless record is an idiot. Anyone who thinks that this election is about finding out who has the least dirt is an idiot.

This election is about doing something different than what we've done before - whether it's Sanders and socialist ideas, Trump and his business savvy and bluntness, Biden and his awkwardness, creepiness, and (again) big mouth, or even Rand Paul and his...pipe dreams.

This is exactly right. The majority(and I do mean majority) of people that have talked to me have made it clear they want trump. He's confident enough (or arrogant) to get their votes.

I personally don't think it makes a flying #?*! who we get. Minor things may change, but world leaders living in the shadows pull the strings. Everyone at ATS knows that. Big banks, giant coorperations, etc. Money, money, & money.
edit on 8-9-2015 by solongandgoodnight because: Spell

posted on Sep, 9 2015 @ 06:16 AM
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Socialist love money.
They just don’t want anybody below the ruling elite to have any.
Socialism is based on the idea of the lowest common denominator. The only way to make everyone equal is to lower the life style of everyone until it matches the level of the lowest person. It dictates that no one should have more than anyone else and we should all be equal. It’s impossible to produce the required quantities of every item to allow 7 Billion+ people to live equally. So the only way it works is that you must withhold items from people on an equal bases. Which in turns creates a class of people that control what the masses may have or not have. This class becomes the ruling body and would need the power to control the masses to keep them from gaining an “unfair” advantage or “wealth”. Of course these people will require “more” then the masses because they need to be able to “watch and guide” the masses in the correct manner.
Same old idea of slaves and masters as all the ideas “ruling classes” have had, just packaged in a different flavor.
Capitalism has one major advantage over all the other systems. Sense it does not seek to limit items or advantages; it allows for much more room at the top. With this in mind ANYONE can move to the “upper” class if they want to put the effort and sweat into it. Combine this with the NEED to keep raising the “lower” class so that they will have the ability to purchase the items the “upper” class make. You get the only system that MUST keep pushing the “lower” class higher in their living standards and ability to access new things.

posted on May, 25 2016 @ 06:13 AM
muse7 posted this thread last summer. It needs to be brought back to the top of the pile, people.

Trump has connections to the mob.

No other candidate for the White House this year has anything close to Trump’s record of repeated social and business dealings with mobsters, swindlers, and other crooks. Professor Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian, said the closest historical example would be President Warren G. Harding and Teapot Dome, a bribery and bid-rigging scandal in which the interior secretary went to prison. But even that has a key difference: Harding’s associates were corrupt but otherwise legitimate businessmen, not mobsters and drug dealers.

Trump’s career has benefited from a decades-long and largely successful effort to limit and deflect law enforcement investigations into his dealings with top mobsters, organized crime associates, labor fixers, corrupt union leaders, con artists and even a one-time drug trafficker whom Trump retained as the head of his personal helicopter service.

...piecing together the long history of federal filings, court records, biographical anecdotes, and research from my and Barrett’s files[, w]hat emerges is a pattern of business dealings with mob figures—not only local figures, but even the son of a reputed Russian mob boss whom Trump had at his side at a gala Trump hotel opening, but has since claimed under oath he barely knows.

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You guys think Hillary is dirty, right? But you want Trump?

He might as well be a mobster himself.
Think about it.
Ties to the Russian mob, the NYC mob, and lots of unsavory others that we peons only know from movies and television dramas. You want him as POTUS?

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