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Donald Trump exposed: Ties to the mob, lack of wealth and more.

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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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The following also speaks to Trump's unscrupulous character.

This took place in the early 1990's while the Trumps were on a family ski trip, and he was married to Ivana -- for 15 years. The family of five was all gathered around, enjoying the day, waiting for a chairlift. Ivanka had just turned 10 yrs old, her two brothers, one on each side of her, and down slope comes perky Marla Maples. She practically skied right into them and initiated an intimate conversation with Donald... in front of his family. That was when Ivana Trump, hurt, shocked and humiliated, met her husbands' mistress and realized he was having an affair. Turned out, it had been a long-running affair of almost 3-yrs.

This information is now old news, but back then these details were only known to those in their social circles and also those (like myself) who lived in the NY/NJ/CT area. The point is, I have been hearing dirt on him since I first heard his name way back in the early 1980's when I was a young adult. Ivanka, (again, who had just turned 10) said she was confused as to why her daddy was talking to this strange lady, but understood why her mom was crying. Trump explained Marla was "Just a friend" but two of his three children were old enough then to know something wasn't quite right.

Ivana, horrified and humiliated never expected her husband would cheat and that she would meet her husbands' mistress on a family ski outing in front of her children. (Narcissists are into humiliation) Anyway, that scene abruptly ended their family vacation... and their marriage. Ivana left Donald at the ski resort and returned to NYC with her three children. She immediately filed for divorce. FWIT, Donald was 45 yrs old when this happened... old enough to know better. If one doesn't have a moral compass by the time they are in their mid-20's they never will... let alone in their mid-40's and on.

I live not even 15 minutes from Trump and back in the 80's and 90's the local news was the local news. What happened in the Tri-State area stayed in the Tri-State area. At the time everyone I asked about this who didn't have access to the local news channels here said they had no knowledge of this scandal. The full story leaked shortly after Donald and Marla married. Yes, times have changed.... Donald has not changed. He is still as morally bankrupt now as he was back then.

Oh, and also, Ivanka found out that her parents' divorce was finalized, at age 11, sitting in a classroom, during 'Weekly Current Events Hour.' Donald had forbid his wife to tell the children in privacy and to explain that it wasn't their fault. Kids think they are partly to blame for the divorce). They heard about the divorce being finalized (and other sordid details) from friends. Ivana said she was mortified when one of her classmates held up her 'current event' contribution and just below were the headlines of her parents divorce. Although it wasn't intentional it still hurt... Ivana's words.

Trump hasn't changed. His techniques have changed, but he's still the scum-bag-douche he has always been.

edit on 5-9-2015 by Jana12 because: a spelling error




posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: muse7

Thank you for this. Show him for who he really is..A liar and a cheater.


Name a single candidate is either party who isn't. It's like a requirement. The list of who isn't would be much shorter. But I'm sure whoever someone is supporting is on the short list, the others are the problem.


Bernie Sanders.


Crazy how people on this site support Sanders so much but we all know what socialism and socialist governments do to our privacy.


Was it socialism that took away our privacy and individual liberty since 9/11? Was it socialism that gave us the Patriot Act?

As a socialist, I believe we need more socialism....a mixture of both socialism and capitalism with an emphasis on individual rights.

That day will come.

ETA: Muse beat me to it.


Please sir, tell me one way the Patriot Act has affected you negatively, or one way that the government has invaded your privacy in the context you speak of.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Jana12
The following also speaks to Trump's unscrupulous character.

This took place in the early 1990's while the Trumps were on a family ski trip, and he was married to Ivana -- for 15 years. The family of five was all gathered around, enjoying the day, waiting for a chairlift. Ivanka had just turned 10 yrs old, her two brothers, one on each side of her, and down slope comes perky Marla Maples. She practically skied right into them and initiated an intimate conversation with Donald... in front of his family. That was when Ivana Trump, hurt, shocked and humiliated, met her husbands' mistress and realized he was having an affair. Turned out, it had been a long-running affair of almost 3-yrs.

This information is now old news, but back then these details were only known to those in their social circles and also those (like myself) who lived in the NY/NJ/CT area. The point is, I have been hearing dirt on him since I first heard his name way back in the early 1980's when I was a young adult. Ivanka, (again, who had just turned 10) said she was confused as to why her daddy was talking to this strange lady, but understood why her mom was crying. Trump explained Marla was "Just a friend" but two of his three children were old enough then to know something wasn't quite right.

Ivana, horrified and humiliated never expected her husband would cheat and that she would meet her husbands' mistress on a family ski outing in front of her children. (Narcissists are into humiliation) Anyway, that scene abruptly ended their family vacation... and their marriage. Ivana left Donald at the ski resort and returned to NYC with her three children. She immediately filed for divorce. FWIT, Donald was 45 yrs old when this happened... old enough to know better. If one doesn't have a moral compass by the time they are in their mid-20's they never will... let alone in their mid-40's and on.

I live not even 15 minutes from Trump and back in the 80's and 90's the local news was the local news. What happened in the Tri-State area stayed in the Tri-State area. At the time everyone I asked about this who didn't have access to the local news channels here said they had no knowledge of this scandal. The full story leaked shortly after Donald and Marla married. Yes, times have changed.... Donald has not changed. He is still as morally bankrupt now as he was back then.

Oh, and also, Ivanka found out that her parents' divorce was finalized, at age 11, sitting in a classroom, during 'Weekly Current Events Hour.' Donald had forbid his wife to tell the children in privacy and to explain that it wasn't their fault. Kids think they are partly to blame for the divorce). They heard about the divorce being finalized (and other sordid details) from friends. Ivana said she was mortified when one of her classmates held up her 'current event' contribution and just below were the headlines of her parents divorce. Although it wasn't intentional it still hurt... Ivana's words.

Trump hasn't changed. His techniques have changed, but he's still the scum-bag-douche he has always been.


I can make stories up too, or exaggerate anecdotes with unsupported embellishments.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: muse7

Thank you for this. Show him for who he really is..A liar and a cheater.


Name a single candidate is either party who isn't. It's like a requirement. The list of who isn't would be much shorter. But I'm sure whoever someone is supporting is on the short list, the others are the problem.


Bernie Sanders.


Crazy how people on this site support Sanders so much but we all know what socialism and socialist governments do to our privacy.


Was it socialism that took away our privacy and individual liberty since 9/11? Was it socialism that gave us the Patriot Act?

As a socialist, I believe we need more socialism....a mixture of both socialism and capitalism with an emphasis on individual rights.

That day will come.

ETA: Muse beat me to it.


Please sir, tell me one way the Patriot Act has affected you negatively, or one way that the government has invaded your privacy in the context you speak of.


You mean like the tsa spring up as part of it? Pain in the butt molestors at airports who fail their own audits haven't stopped Jack shifted the cost of airports security to taxpayers? Oh never mind see your point.
edit on 5-9-2015 by Reallyfolks because: Spelling



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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I don't think history is any indication that your pointing finger has any particular gravitas.

Twenty-ninth president Warren Gamaliel Harding (1865-1923) repeatedly made love to a young girl, Nan Britton, in a White House closet. On one occasion, Secret Service agents had to stop his wife from beating down the closet door.

Herbert Clark Hoover (1874-1964) gave his White House servants strict orders to hide from him whenever he passed by. Those who failed to do so were at risk of being fired.

Lyndon Baines Johnson “LBJ”(1908-1973) affectionately called the many women he slept with his “harem.” He even had a buzzer system installed that rang inside the Oval Office so that Secret Service could warn him when his wife was coming.

Thomas Jefferson wrote “The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth,” which was discovered after his death by his daughter. It argues that Jesus Christ was a great thinker, but that he was devoid of other worldly qualities that made him the center of Christianity.

As a young man, Rutherford Birchard Hayes (1822-1893) fought lyssophobia, or the fear of going insane.

John Quincy Adams (1767-1848) would often skinny dip in the Potomac River.

Andrew Jackson (1767-1845) was reportedly involved in over 100 duels, most to defend the honor of his wife, Rachel. He had a bullet in his chest from an 1806 duel and another bullet in his arm from a barroom fight in 1813 with Missouri senator Thomas Hart Benton.

Harding was obsessed with poker and once bet an entire set of priceless White House China and lost it.

Richard Johnson, the 9th Vice-President of the USA, literally owned his wife. Slave Julia Chinn was 1/8ths African and was inherited by Johnson after his father’s death. Interracial marriage was illegal, so Johnson kept her as his “slave.

Andrew Jackson Taught His Parrot To Curse. The parrot had to be removed from President Jackson's funeral because it wouldn't stop swearing.

George Washington Grew Cannabis.

Some historians claim Harry Truman was inducted into the KKK, even though he was “never active.

Lyndon B. Johnson called his penis “Jumbo” (allegedly for good reason), and would whip it out at random times. During a Cabinet meeting, when asked why the U.S. went into Vietnam, Johnson reportedly whipped it out and bellowed, “This is why!

Grover Cleveland date-raped Maria Halpin, who later discovered she was pregnant. Cleveland then had her child put in an orphanage and forced her to be treated at a mental asylum.

John Adams named his dog “Satan.”

PRESIDENTS WHO would be considered "Washington outsiders" (i.e., the 18 presidents who never served in Congress) are: Washington, J. Adams, Jefferson, Taylor, Grant, Arthur, Cleveland, T. Roosevelt, Taft, Wilson, Coolidge, Hoover, F. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and G. W. Bush.

Franklin Pierce – While President, Pierce was arrested for running over an old woman with his horse.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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I don't trust him.
Corporate types have RAPED this country.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Remind me again please.

How old is Bernie Sanders?

Whatever.....but I see a lot of similarities between Trump and Sanders in that they both appeal to sizeable groups, (though obviously opposite) at extreme ends of the political spectrum. Both, each in their own way are wealthy. Trump has money and Sanders has built up a treasure of Liberal/Socialist credentials.

And both run somewhat similarly under the MSM radar in that neither have been taken seriously and neither have been well vetted by the MSM, because, I would guess, neither is seen as a serious contender for their respective parties nomination.

And, oddly, they sort of play the same role in their respective parties. Sanderistas (i just made that up) might well stay home on election day when Hilary gets the nomination and the "Trumpers" will likely do the same when Jeb gets the party nomination.

And when I look at this it occurs to me that in a funny way, the "electorate" and their preferences really do point to a near 4 Party Split.....Socialists, Progressives/Democrats, Republicans, and "Far Right" Conservatives. So....if we weren't limited to a two party system.....we'd have a 4 way Presidential race.

But a closer examination reveals a problem for these 4 parties in 2016.
Sanders followers are largely Young People, but.....realistically, Sanders is too old to win the office.
Trumps followers on the other hand are largely geriatrics, and Trump is too nutty to win the office.

So....the Socialist Party needs to find a Younger candidate. And,
The Conservatives need to figure out how to attract voters younger than 60.

Oh.....and they all need to figure out how to go from a 2 party system to a 4 party system.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: Reallyfolks

I don't know but the thought of trump , Clinton, and Epstein heading over to pedo island for a weekend of fun made me throw up in my mouth...thanks


Well the black book isn't necessarily a direct accusation of pedophilia, but why no media is asking how it ended up there?
Source

EDIT: anyway with this criminal record is going to be the perfect puppet: blackmailable to the ground like Berlusconi
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: stolencar18


stolencar18 --- It's not a made up story. None of it is made up or embellished.

Once she became a young adult she spoke openly and publicly about all of this, albeit long before she knew her father would run for POTUS. It's not a secret.

Look it up before you go accusing an ATS member of fabricating stories and lying.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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amazing that no matter what politician a thread is talking about, somehow Obama's name or a democrat is mentioned in a negative way.....maybe the democrats should start calling all republicans liars, scum, psychopaths, etc....this one is about D. trump...and yet....



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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LOL...Trump will probably say he'll release his Tax Returns when Obama releases his birth certificate.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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Like he's any different than any other politician. The game is rigged you have no real choice for elections anyway just the illusion that your voting matters.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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Like he's any different than any other politician. The game is rigged you have no real choice for elections anyway just the illusion that your voting matters.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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More...on.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:33 PM
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Just goes to show :
Other than in a couple of circumstances, you can not become a super wealthy person without dealing with criminals, taking advantage of people or doing illegal acts.

In fact, most laws that affect the little people are there because they want them to stay little.

Trump is exactly the same than every other successful psychopaths.
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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Agreed. Politicians are the elite of organized crime.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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but but but ILLEGALS!!



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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Trump is shaking up the political 'status quo'...and for that reason alone...I like what he's done.
I still think the one candidate he actually fears is Dr. Ben Carson.
When Clinton, Bush, Trump and Sanders eventually fall by the wayside...Dr. Carson will still be standing.

2016 is the year of the Political Outsiders....It can't be stopped.
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posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

What has he shaken up?

All he does is talk out his ass, politicians already do that.



posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
As Trump continuously requested Obama to produce his Birth Certificate, how about he shows everyone his Tax Returns?

Why are the media scared to ask him these questions anyway?

They are taking money to give him air time and let him direct the interview.



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