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originally posted by: paraphi
In Syria, is it now the time for the international community to declare a "safe haven" and start to intervene to remove belligerents? One thing ISIS, or Assad would not want is to face NATO. The other alternative is we just leave the place to rot.
originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: MrCrow
Any country that has partaken, or is partaking in the bombing of these refugees homelands should be FORCED to accept these refugees.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Have the Germans been bombing those countries?
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
If so, then yes they share responsibility, if not well..maybe the UK should not get involved in military campaigns if it can't afford the consequences.
~Tenth
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: stumason
Comments about the NHS are not "asinine", if you worked within it you know that. The staff are pushed to their limits already. Try working on a large ward with only 2 of you on and see how much increased funding has helped this problem. Unless you work within the NHS I suggest you keep your funding argument to yourself because you have swallowed Cameron's propaganda.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
You cannot simply keep bringing people in with health problems - you think all these people arriving as the government tell you don't use the NHS, f you do then you are naive. Only two days ago a Doctor working at one of the departure points refugees use said their health is dire and the journey across the Med is far too dangerous as they are so weak and many so ill. No insulin tablets and medication for long enough to badly affect them.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
Furthermore there is a moral issue here that doesn't involve the refugees directly. Cameron is telling the indigenous public, we have to face dire cuts to all our services. Our social housing is facing a 1% reduction in its budget for the next 4 years so jobs, new builds, apprenticeships etc cannot be maintained, let alone expanded to cover our natural growth within our population . Yet now suddenly what is he going to do as his own government's budget wasn't done to cater for x thousands coming here and bringing nothing with them. Is he going to get us further into debt or was he lying to us in the beginning?
originally posted by: Shiloh7
Believe me I want to help, but I see the repercussions of all of this and people will forget that dead little boy very quickly when they get side-lined for getting services they have already paid for, in order to accommodate yet more immigrants. The UK is a tiny island in comparison to many of the other EU countries and many of these need to step up although the solution is to deal with ISIS immediately - which strangely doesn't seem to happen does it? Shame those who fund it aren't taking refugees!
originally posted by: woodwardjnr
I think the op as got his millions and billions mixed up. Easily done in this day and age. I think that has caused some confusion in this thread.
originally posted by: Nova937
Their Goal has and always been from the start - Remove Assad at any cost. Boots on the ground has been their goal for a long time. They never got the Justification until now to do it!
The Migrant crisis is their ticket for the all important last invasion.
I just hope Russia gets in there and stops them!
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: crazyewok
Quite and while this is OT, it has to be said the NHS as an organisation is structurally broken and needs major reform. Sadly, ideology rather than pragmatic thinking tends to get in the way of this - case in point, the opposition to private health providers being involved in health care in the UK. It works bloody well in France and Germany.