Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Found in Contempt of Court - Jail

you also have to consider their geological location. In some of the south, their democrats are further right than some northern republicans.
I just thought that my suggestion, that she ran under the same party as her mom did before her was just as feasible as anything else would be. any ulterior motives you think might be behind my words are only in your head quite frankly.

quite frankly religion/social issues are really just a small facet of one's overall political beliefs, and I know it's hard for some to believe, but some may feel strongly enough on other issues to overlook a party's position on abortion or same sex relationships...
after all, our country isn't going into the crapper because of either of those issues really, is it??

originally posted by: dawnstar
In some of the south, their democrats are further right than some northern republicans.
I just thought that my suggestion, that she ran under the same party as her mom did before her was just as feasible as anything else would be.

Exactly. I read that her parents were "Southern Democrats", which is more conservative than liberal, really.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: dawnstar
In some of the south, their democrats are further right than some northern republicans.
I just thought that my suggestion, that she ran under the same party as her mom did before her was just as feasible as anything else would be.

Exactly. I read that her parents were "Southern Democrats", which is more conservative than liberal, really.

Just like a California Republican could be (probably is) more Progressive then a Southern Democrat.

Location definitely makes a difference.

I was a Southern California Republican for about 40 years. I was in a "no holds barred" political discussion forum long before ATS. Definitely a difference between Southern Democrats and other Democrats.

Just watched a video of her speaking. Good lord she is Nuts!

I hope she gets the help she needs.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

It wouldn't surprise me if momma didn't run as a democrat also, and since momma always managed to win, why change?

Apparently she's been a democrat for 27 years. It's highly doubtful to me that Republicans were even thinking of pretending to be democrat 27 years ago. Just not likely but nice try at blaming Republicans for this. Anyway this pretending to be a different party is really more of a democrat tactic, but who does that for 27 years. Maybe it's more of a projection on your part since it's what democrats tend to do.

a reply to: dawnstar

you also have to consider their geological location. In some of the south, their democrats are further right than some northern republicans.

oh of course now it's because they are in the backward racist south. Can't Progressives ever take responsibility for their own stuff? Yah mb the Olde South where Democrats were well not very nice...and no they didn't just switch parties... this is just too funny for words.
Daily Kos is busy condemning her and she's not a real Democrat.

I was one of those good ole southern democrats for over 10 years, a texas democrat at that. heck I've probably voted republican just as often as I have democrat.
there's been a few differences that I've pointed out between the northern and the southern states, drawn from my experience from living in both that quite frankly, ain't that negative for the south. for instance, the south seems to not like the gov't handouts, at least they didn't when I was there, but well, I found myself more screwed in the north than in the south. I mean ya, we couldn't afford medical care in either place but I did have a nice pediatrician in the south that took very good care of us and would offer my husband odd jobs to help pay her bill and she was great with old time, non-prescription remedies that often used things that you would have in your kitchen or well could buy at the grocery store for a reasonable price.
ny had the attitude that well since everyone either was doing well, or was getting help from the gov't well, obviously, you have plenty of money!!!

a reply to: Informer1958

She deified the law she ignored the law.... which one is it? I seem to remember a story about a lawyer who deified the law over the King himself, oh who was that....oh yes of course it was Thomas More! And he was jailed ad executed of course for it. In a terrible high tower.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

How is she a progressive though?
Democrat does not equal progressive, denying marriage licences to same sex couples based on religious reasons isn't very progressive.

a reply to: Sremmos80

I never said she's a Progressive. Remember when Hillary enthusiastically refused to call herself a liberal, she's a Progressive....oh wait there's no difference I guess....
She's been a Democrat for 27 years. Apparently being a Democrat does not mean being allowed to follow one's own conscience. Nancy Pelosi a Catholic Democrat apparently got it right when she supported abortion.
Oh Richard Gebardt another Democrat (3rd district St. Louis) was against abortion before he was for it. I remember very distinctly as he was in my district.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Sremmos80

She's been a Democrat for 27 years. Apparently being a Democrat does not mean being allowed to follow one's own conscience

What the hell does that even mean?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

It wouldn't surprise me if momma didn't run as a democrat also, and since momma always managed to win, why change?

Apparently she's been a democrat for 27 years. It's highly doubtful to me that Republicans were even thinking of pretending to be democrat 27 years ago. Just not likely but nice try at blaming Republicans for this.

And I was a California Republican for 40 years.

Even back then there was a distinct difference in Southern Politics.

You are so grasping at straws.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Sremmos80

She's been a Democrat for 27 years. Apparently being a Democrat does not mean being allowed to follow one's own conscience

What the hell does that even mean?

What it means is that Progressive Sites like Daily Kos arecrucifying her for her personal beliefs because they go against the Progressive agenda. That is where the Democrat Party left off and the Socialist Party began.

a reply to: Annee

No, the Progressives are crucifying her because she's not Left enough. It's so simple. You can blame it on Southern politics being different... you can blame it on her not being a real Democrat... Even the New York Times automatically assumed she was Republican. I bet if she voted for Hillary though that would be all different.

Kim Davis Debacle Reveals Frightening Truth About Desperate, Radicalized Christian Right
"Right" in this case, meaning "Conservative."

The evangelicals are losing their chosen battles, and are hysterical.
Doesn't matter if they are registered to vote at all - Dem, Rep, Ind, whatever.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

As their cultural power declines in the face of growing diversity and liberalism, religious conservatives are embracing scary levels of radicalism. They don’t have the numbers anymore, so they are turning to scarier and more radical demands to seize power in any way that they can.

Yep, there's a battle for civil rights ahead. Just as they did with interracial marriage, the religious right is going to fight tooth and nail to deny the rights of those they deem to be sinners. Well, the gay sinners anyway. All the other sinners seem to be OK.

This is an anti-gay agenda dressed up in its Sunday Best to be disguised as "religious freedom". LOL!

Some scary people!!!

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
a reply to: Kryties

I mentioned earlier in the thread, that she had Michelle Bachman eyes, someone else's comment was "Yeah, Bat Crap Crazy"

No she doesn't. This just goes to show how far people will go in ridiculing someone they disagree with. Unfortunately none of this is about whether she did the right thing or not, it's about whether she went with the party line. It's not like people of either party never did dishonest stuff or anything.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I seem to remember quite a few times where the republicans were accusing other republicans for not really being republican....matter of fact I remember bush being said not really being republican.

and she can have whatever "beliefs" she wants, but when it comes to "beliefs" and the laws, her beliefs in no way trumps those laws in any way. not unless you want to acknowledge that my "beliefs" can also trump the laws, and well, I have to warn you, I have some rather odd beliefs!

neither employers, or gov't has any more responsibility to cater to religious beliefs than to try to accommodate them. that fact that she is a country clerk, an elected position that overseas the county clerk office kind of complicates that accommodation process quite a bit. she can't have her name taken off the marriage licenses if the state law states that those licenses are to have her signature, or stamp on them to authenticate them, for instance.
and quite frankly, if the only legal accommodation that can be done legally is that the marriage licenses just aren't processed in that country then that does pose an undue burden on the taxpayers for that county. I imagine that there were quite a few clerks having problems with inter-racial marriage when they were declared by the supreme court to be a right. but, well, maybe I am wrong, but I don't remember this kind of craziness then.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
. . . . it's about whether she went with the party line.

Really?

Who cares what her party is.

She defied a judges order to abide by the decision of the Supreme Court.

a reply to: dawnstar

seem to remember quite a few times where the republicans were accusing other republicans for not really being republican....

yes you are right, it's what the Tea Party lovingly refers to as RINOS. I'm just very amused at the Progressive melt down over it.