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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: MrWendal
They can take the money from the millions and millions of unreported dollars the Police departments have taken from across the entire State under Asset Forfeiture Laws.
You have a GREAT argument! One many of us have been stating since early in the thread. I don't think she should be in jail, either! She should have been booted! But your argument isn't with us, it's with the Kentucky legislature, who I suspect WANTS the spectacle of the poor, abused, religious woman in jail "for her beliefs".
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: yuppa
So the ten commandments don't apply to Christians?
The OT is part of the bible, plain and simple.
You meet a lot of women like Kim Davis down home. In Eastern Kentucky, the born-again Christian—with her denim skirts and disdain for the federal government—is as ubiquitous as the hills themselves. They go to church on Sundays to pray their sons won’t do meth on Mondays. They vote Republican, then go spend their food stamps at the Save-a-Lot. They oppose LGBT rights while embracing their own queer kin (because “you do for family”).
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Davis and her ilk keep appealing to the First Amendment and their “deeply held religious beliefs,” insisting they are on the side of righteousness. But their actions breed a culture of fear, ignorance, and marginalization—which, in ways both tangible and visceral, injure fellow Kentuckians.
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These debates aren’t exclusive to Kentucky. Conflicts over “religious liberty” and LGBT rights are raging throughout the country, with more county officials around the country beginning to emulate Kim Davis as legislatures carve out exemptions for homophobic public servants to refuse to serve gay folks. Kentucky is a state still trying to figure out its place in a rapidly changing world. It has to reconcile its past with its future, its religion with its civil rights, if it ever hopes to prosper in the 21st century.
originally posted by: jonnywhite
I support freedom to. I told my friend to be himself. I would be happy if he married. And yet I will always be skeptical. I cannot accept things blindly. I've never really known certainty anyway. I think some people are more certain than others. Maybe it's psychological? Maybe the part of my brain which creates certainty is small or impaired.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: jonnywhite
Skeptical about what exactly??? Why even concern yourself with something that doesn't effect you at all???
If a gay couple is walking down the street does it even make a difference to anyone else if they're married or not??? Would you even know if they were???
If you did know would it change anything???
Does their marriage impact your life in any way???
Then who cares???
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: jonnywhite
I admit I'm skeptical when I see a straight married couple where the woman is young and pretty and the man is much older and seems to have a lot of money.
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Annee
Yall do realize he can be made to resign in one day for family reasons or relgious reasons. Thats th eloophole to firing you make it so they want to quit. Tell her as long as you do not resign you will stay in jail.
originally posted by: jonnywhite
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: jonnywhite
Skeptical about what exactly??? Why even concern yourself with something that doesn't effect you at all???
If a gay couple is walking down the street does it even make a difference to anyone else if they're married or not??? Would you even know if they were???
If you did know would it change anything???
Does their marriage impact your life in any way???
Then who cares???
Skepticism doesn't mean I forbid same-sex marriage. I support it. Skeptical doesn't mean I cast a wary eye to every person or couple who states they're gay. It doesn't mean I wonder if the couple I passed is a gay couple. I really don't care. But when questioned on a deep level about what it all means, I will openly admit skepticism.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
originally posted by: Grimpachi
I find that it is sad and somewhat amazing that so many people do not understand how state and federal government works especially pertaining to laws.
Most people only get half a year of classes on US government in school. It's really not that surprising. I think US government was a semester long class, maybe it's a year at the most...but that's about it.
Unless you seek out additional education, they really only cover the bare bones. Pretty sad.
originally posted by: neformore
Just read a very valid point on this on Facebook.
Imagine she'd refused to sell/license someone a handgun on religious grounds.
I wonder what kind of arguments would be put forward by those who are defending her and saying she is being persecuted to justify that?
What this means is that anyone who functions as an agent of the state must remain religiously neutral, providing equal service, treatment, and rights to all people of all religious, ethical, social, and cultural backgrounds.
This separation is one of the fundamental pillars of American society. The Church will never overtake the government and the government will never overtake the Church. This is what our founding fathers fought for. This is what it means to be an American. And Kim Davis posed a great threat to the religious liberties of our nation by refusing to carry out her duties as an agent of the state, issuing marriage licenses to all couples, regardless of their sexuality or gender identity. Davis forced her Christian faith on the people of Rowan County, and violated their right to be able to receive equal treatment from the government, regardless of their sexuality, race, religion, or values. If Davis was able to continue serving as the county clerk, she could, in theory, continue to refuse to grant marriages licenses or provide services to everyone she disagrees with, which would, in effect, completely dissolve the religious freedoms of the people in her county.
originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
The only reason this idiot is doing this is because she has been divorced 3 times and could not stand for other people to be happy, probably. I hope she does a hunger strike next in protest, she could stand to lose some weight, unfortunately, the only way for her to really lose weight would be to get the rocks out of her head, that would require a more drastic measure.
originally posted by: chuck258
originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
The only reason this idiot is doing this is because she has been divorced 3 times and could not stand for other people to be happy, probably. I hope she does a hunger strike next in protest, she could stand to lose some weight, unfortunately, the only way for her to really lose weight would be to get the rocks out of her head, that would require a more drastic measure.
Wow, such an enlightened comment. Lets not address the issue at hand, lets insult her physical appearance! Typical Liberal, you are hypocrite just like she is.