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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Two observations:
1) It apparently is okay for elected officials to ignore the laws when they have the liberal ideology and social lemming media behind them. No one went to jail for refusing to enforce DOMA, DADT, Immigration Laws, etc.
2) SCOTUS rulings do not rewrite state laws. Judges are neither legislators nor executives. They can strike down state marriage laws, as was done with recent rulings (erroneously and via pure judicial activism, but there is no easy recourse against that.) Has Kentucky passed new marriage or civil union laws yet? What law is this country clerk being told to enforce?
She wasn't told to enforce anything, she was told to do her job and issue marriage licenses to any two people that were entitled to be married. This included same sex couples as the one man - one woman kentucky law had been ruled unconstitutional.
I'm not disputing that she is supposed to fulfill the law. I'm asking what law didn't she fulfill? Did the Kentucky legislature pass, and the Kentucky governor sign a law that allowed same sex union licenses?
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So feel free to continue handing out your version of freedoms to only those you decide you agree with, and withhold it from those you don't. It makes you special.
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: yuppa
The whole New Covenant/Old Covenent thing becomes a gimmick for "salad bar" style Christians.
Whatever they don't want to follow in the old Testament is "old Covenent."
Whatever they want to cite is still the Word of God.
You see all the usual Old Testament quotes on the posters carried by the anti-gay contingent.
Gee imagine that, christians calling other christians hypocrites
If you read the Bible correctly it SPECIFICALLY STATES WHO THE OT APPLIES TO. Its not pick what you want. The ones posting old testament need to stop and actually understand what they are reading. They are being hypocrites.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Two observations:
1) It apparently is okay for elected officials to ignore the laws when they have the liberal ideology and social lemming media behind them. No one went to jail for refusing to enforce DOMA, DADT, Immigration Laws, etc.
2) SCOTUS rulings do not rewrite state laws. Judges are neither legislators nor executives. They can strike down state marriage laws, as was done with recent rulings (erroneously and via pure judicial activism, but there is no easy recourse against that.) Has Kentucky passed new marriage or civil union laws yet? What law is this country clerk being told to enforce?
She wasn't told to enforce anything, she was told to do her job and issue marriage licenses to any two people that were entitled to be married. This included same sex couples as the one man - one woman kentucky law had been ruled unconstitutional.
I'm not disputing that she is supposed to fulfill the law. I'm asking what law didn't she fulfill? Did the Kentucky legislature pass, and the Kentucky governor sign a law that allowed same sex union licenses?
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Two observations:
1) It apparently is okay for elected officials to ignore the laws when they have the liberal ideology and social lemming media behind them. No one went to jail for refusing to enforce DOMA, DADT, Immigration Laws, etc.
2) SCOTUS rulings do not rewrite state laws. Judges are neither legislators nor executives. They can strike down state marriage laws, as was done with recent rulings (erroneously and via pure judicial activism, but there is no easy recourse against that.) Has Kentucky passed new marriage or civil union laws yet? What law is this country clerk being told to enforce?
She wasn't told to enforce anything, she was told to do her job and issue marriage licenses to any two people that were entitled to be married. This included same sex couples as the one man - one woman kentucky law had been ruled unconstitutional.
I'm not disputing that she is supposed to fulfill the law. I'm asking what law didn't she fulfill? Did the Kentucky legislature pass, and the Kentucky governor sign a law that allowed same sex union licenses?
No the US Supreme Court declared their law unconstitutional, therefore it became null and void instantly, so thus did not exist.
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Two observations:
1) It apparently is okay for elected officials to ignore the laws when they have the liberal ideology and social lemming media behind them. No one went to jail for refusing to enforce DOMA, DADT, Immigration Laws, etc.
2) SCOTUS rulings do not rewrite state laws. Judges are neither legislators nor executives. They can strike down state marriage laws, as was done with recent rulings (erroneously and via pure judicial activism, but there is no easy recourse against that.) Has Kentucky passed new marriage or civil union laws yet? What law is this country clerk being told to enforce?
She wasn't told to enforce anything, she was told to do her job and issue marriage licenses to any two people that were entitled to be married. This included same sex couples as the one man - one woman kentucky law had been ruled unconstitutional.
I'm not disputing that she is supposed to fulfill the law. I'm asking what law didn't she fulfill? Did the Kentucky legislature pass, and the Kentucky governor sign a law that allowed same sex union licenses?
Kentucky didn't have to pass anything, the SCOTUS said that their homophibic law violated the constitution, and that had to treat everyone the same.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: BubbaJoe
Most laws tell you what you can't do or what you have to do to do other things.
Can't fish without a license or can't fish in a certain pond that sort of thing.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Two observations:
1) It apparently is okay for elected officials to ignore the laws when they have the liberal ideology and social lemming media behind them. No one went to jail for refusing to enforce DOMA, DADT, Immigration Laws, etc.
2) SCOTUS rulings do not rewrite state laws. Judges are neither legislators nor executives. They can strike down state marriage laws, as was done with recent rulings (erroneously and via pure judicial activism, but there is no easy recourse against that.) Has Kentucky passed new marriage or civil union laws yet? What law is this country clerk being told to enforce?
She wasn't told to enforce anything, she was told to do her job and issue marriage licenses to any two people that were entitled to be married. This included same sex couples as the one man - one woman kentucky law had been ruled unconstitutional.
I'm not disputing that she is supposed to fulfill the law. I'm asking what law didn't she fulfill? Did the Kentucky legislature pass, and the Kentucky governor sign a law that allowed same sex union licenses?
Kentucky didn't have to pass anything, the SCOTUS said that their homophibic law violated the constitution, and that had to treat everyone the same.
The law said it was legal to give a license to a man and a woman (regardless of sexual orientation). 5 justices armed with emotional judicial activism and zero regard for proper legal argument struck that law down.
So if the law was struck down, some other law would need to take its place in order to issue licenses. Since a judiciary cannot write a law, it would take a legislature and executive to put a new law in place. When did this happen?
Unless of course you support a judge rewriting a law without legislative or executive review and have as little regard for the law as most progressives.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: BubbaJoe
Constitutional amendments are a little different.
In a way they are laws, but they are laws that limit government for the most part.