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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: AshFan
As an idiot could you describe what is all about because I did try but my feeble mind didn't compute and I'm full of scotch and meds.
Does this mean wemake the universe exist in it's present state because we are observing it? or is my comprehension frazzled?.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
so theoretically, this experiment was bound to happen....
this disproves the experiment.
because the microwaves 'randomly' generated in the experiment and the detectors can be subject to the same experiment not just the photons emitted.... by simply switching around their alice and bob and the detector.
this would also prove that microwaves cannot be emitted randomly either as their electrons (and protons) are already entangled and exist somewhere not 'localized' (or near) to the experiment taking place....
or are we all insane for trying to prove things that are not even proven in the first place??
There is one loophole left for local realists to cling to, but no experiment can ever rule it out. What if there is some kind of link between the random microwave generators and the detectors? Then Alice and Bob may think they are free to choose the settings on their equipment, but hidden variables could interfere with the choice and thwart the Bell test.
Hanson’s team notes this is a possibility, but assume it isn’t the case. Zeilinger’s experiment attempts to deal with this freedom of choice loophole by separating the random number generators and detectors, while others have proposed using photons from distant quasars to produce random numbers, resulting in billions of years of separation.
None of this helps in the long run – if the fate of the universe is predetermined, with the flutter of every photon set in stone, no one would ever have a choice about anything. “The freedom of choice loophole will never be closed fully,” says Kofler.