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Homicide suspected in 'clearly suspicious' death of off-duty Texas officer

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posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: olaru12

Being 184 miles apart I'd doubt it.

But you never know.


Although 184 miles in Texas is just another 3 hour drive...




posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

An in-war is just a likely than some anarchist breaking into a cops house.
If not more so.
No mental gymnastics required.

Notice that every sentence in my post had a question mark?

You can be a sure as you like. I'm not. Respectfully speaking.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: olaru12

Being 184 miles apart I'd doubt it.

But you never know.


more likely than your wild conspiracy theory about bad cops eliminating bad cops lol come on now bud lol



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

My point is, why go 184 miles away to target someone when you could do it closer to home.

And was he even connected to Waco,
Or are you speculating that it's just "one of ours means one of yours" no matter the area?

Seems a little off for a revenge hit.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

An in-war is just a likely than some anarchist breaking into a cops house.
If not more so.
No mental gymnastics required.

Notice that every sentence in my post had a question mark?

You can be a sure as you like. I'm not. Respectfully speaking.


No its not just as likely

If that was the case then we wouldnt have police being shot execution style by anti police people, brainwashed by the "kill pigs" mantra.......

The precedent is already set for that, there ahve been at least 5 cops murdered for that reason alone



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

My conspiracy is just that. A theory.


Your absolutism about "rhetoric" goes against the conservative notion of personal responsibility.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

If there are in fact multiple parties that planned the murder, then it is indeed a conspiracy by very definition.

FWIW



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

On the streets.


Breaking into an officer's house is no way the MO of your average gangbanger.

It's nothing like executing someone point blank on duty.


But you can believe what you like. I'll do the same.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

My conspiracy is just that. A theory.


Your absolutism about "rhetoric" goes against the conservative notion of personal responsibility.


How does it go against personal responsibility? No one is saying they arent personally responsible for the killings they do, but that doesnt mean they arent influenced by the "kill a cop" mantra......

The two arent one and the same or mutually exclusive.....



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Sadly meth has had a terrible impact on West Texas. I had a friend murdered in Abilene over 600$, they stabbed him multiple times and stuffed 600$ worth of the stuff down his throat just to send a message. My guess is he goton the wrong side of the Aryan Brotherhood or some Hispanic cartel.
Of course everything is just speculation until the real reports come out.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

On the streets.


Breaking into an officer's house is no way the MO of your average gangbanger.

It's nothing like executing someone point blank on duty.


But you can believe what you like. I'll do the same.


I dont believe anything at this point as there are no facts.........

But what I do believe is more LIKELY given yoru scenario and mine, is mine....because there is proof of it mulitple times since even the first of the year, of people targeting police officers because they were police and killing them

as always, we respectfully agree to disagree, much love to ya my brother
edit on 9/2/2015 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

My conspiracy is just that. A theory.


Your absolutism about "rhetoric" goes against the conservative notion of personal responsibility.


How does it go against personal responsibility? No one is saying they arent personally responsible for the killings they do, but that doesnt mean they arent influenced by the "kill a cop" mantra......

The two arent one and the same or mutually exclusive.....


Someone willing to execute anyone, especially a cop, doesn't need a mantra.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Agreed. It does happen. Which is why so many good cops stay silent. There are consequences to honesty but I have to believe the people would not let such a thing stand.

If it was a hit they crossed a line they will soon realize was wiser to avoid.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

If there are in fact multiple parties that planned the murder, then it is indeed a conspiracy by very definition.

FWIW


Theres a difference between conspiracy and premeditation, IMHO



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: roadgravel

My point is, why go 184 miles away to target someone when you could do it closer to home.

And was he even connected to Waco,
Or are you speculating that it's just "one of ours means one of yours" no matter the area?

Seems a little off for a revenge hit.


I was just pointing out that in Texas, it isn't that far, if someone has a motive which may be other than killing a random police officer. Could even been someone who was involved and since left the area.

One of the only two or three murders in my area in the last 10 to 15 years was by someone drifting through. Pretty wide open at this point.



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

My conspiracy is just that. A theory.


Your absolutism about "rhetoric" goes against the conservative notion of personal responsibility.


How does it go against personal responsibility? No one is saying they arent personally responsible for the killings they do, but that doesnt mean they arent influenced by the "kill a cop" mantra......

The two arent one and the same or mutually exclusive.....


Someone willing to execute anyone, especially a cop, doesn't need a mantra.


I agree to an extent, but sometimes all they need is what they feel is a righteous reason, in their mind......

You cant tell me "kill pigs" isnt causing this sort of thing............its already happening, its confirmed, its fact......theres no denying it



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Criminal conspiracy indicates premeditation. Criminal conspiracy is a charge in and of itself.

www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: wastedown
a reply to: roadgravel

Sadly meth has had a terrible impact on West Texas. I had a friend murdered in Abilene over 600$, they stabbed him multiple times and stuffed 600$ worth of the stuff down his throat just to send a message. My guess is he goton the wrong side of the Aryan Brotherhood or some Hispanic cartel.
Of course everything is just speculation until the real reports come out.


Thats crazy , I was born in Abilene , didnt realize it had gotten that bad there, although I do know meth has torn west texas apart a lot......that and the boom and busts of the oil cycles , cash flow and drugs....

I havent been to midland in probably 18 yrs, I bet I wouldnt recognize it



posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Criminal conspiracy indicates premeditation. Criminal conspiracy is a charge in and of itself.

www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...


Ill grant you that, but that still doesnt indicate what the conspiracy WAS, until the facts come out, arguing semantics doesnt get to the motive

I still maintain that its more likely that its the "Kill pigs" type, over Other cops killing this cop

Considering we have had a rash of the former........
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posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You don't need a lesson in causation and correlation.
I could say it's nothing to do with rhetoric and everything to do with the release of Straight Outta Compton...

But I believe that to be ludicrous as well.


Now is the perfect time to use the smoke screen of the kill cops mantra to do some dirt.

Thin blue line gets thinner everyday.


Someone also said KKK, or Waco bikers.
These people don't need mantras...
They need distractions like the mantra so focus will be shifted.

How is this not possible?
It's certainly not laughable buddy.




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