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ISIS Detonates Car Bomb at Russian HQ in Dagestan

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posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I am always keeping an eye out for any evidence of collusion between Iran and Turkey and ISIS.

That would be evidence of sympathy, solidarity and consolidation.


You won't find any collusion between ISIS and Iran.

ISIS comes from the land of Saudia Arabia.

You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia, and Iran are mortal enemies.

Proof is in the pudding in Syria.

Saudi is trying to over thrown Irans puppet regime in Syria(Assad).

However one just may find collusion between Turkey and ISIS with 90%+ of its population being Sunni.

Even though Turkey likes to claim how 'secular' it is.
edit on 4-9-2015 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I am always keeping an eye out for any evidence of collusion between Iran and Turkey and ISIS.

That would be evidence of sympathy, solidarity and consolidation.

Iran?

I know you Americans are frothing at the mouth to rain bombs on Iran, but being shiite mulsims they are mortal enemys of isis.



I guess you aren't aware of the Iran Nuclear Deal that just got official approval.



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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Iran are NOT and NEVER will ve allies of ISIS and vice versa.


That isn't entirely accurate.

In Afghanistan in the 80s the Peshwar Seven, and Tehran Eight teamed up to kill the Russians.

Then for what I can't figure out the Tehran Eight became best buds with the Russians, and hates the west now.

True enough today as Syria has shown it has been pretty much Saudi and Iran fighting it out.



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I am always keeping an eye out for any evidence of collusion between Iran and Turkey and ISIS.

That would be evidence of sympathy, solidarity and consolidation.


You won't find any collusion between ISIS and Iran.

ISIS comes from the land of Saudia Arabia.

You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia, and Iran are mortal enemies.

Proof is in the pudding in Syria.

Saudi is trying to over thrown Irans puppet regime in Syria(Assad).

However one just may find collusion between Turkey and ISIS with 90%+ of its population being Sunni.

Even though Turkey likes to claim how 'secular' it is.


Let's hope not. If we ever do, the other scenario will be taking shape.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 04:42 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Vasa Croe

How long before people start yelling, 'False Flagski!', and blame it on the United States?


Geopolitical expert F. William Engdahl in a May 15th Near Eastern Outlook Journal article called What is Putin is telling the truth?


CIA’s Chechen Wars

Not long after the CIA and Saudi Intelligence-financed Mujahideen had devastated Afghanistan at the end of the 1980’s, forcing the exit of the Soviet Army in 1989, and the dissolution of the Soviet Union itself some months later, the CIA began to look at possible places in the collapsing Soviet Union where their trained “Afghan Arabs” could be redeployed to further destabilize Russian influence over the post-Soviet Eurasian space.

They were called Afghan Arabs because they had been recruited from ultraconservative Wahhabite Sunni Muslims from Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and elsewhere in the Arab world where the ultra-strict Wahhabite Islam was practiced. They were brought to Afghanistan in the early 1980’s by a Saudi CIA recruit who had been sent to Afghanistan named Osama bin Laden.
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President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at CIA the mandate to destroy that Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus that no Western or Russian company would consider using the Grozny Russian oil pipeline.

Graham E. Fuller, an old colleague of Bush and former Deputy Director of the CIA National Council on Intelligence had been a key architect of the CIA Mujahideen strategy. Fuller described the CIA strategy in the Caucasus in the early 1990s: “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power.”
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Saudi Intelligence head, Turki al-Faisal, arranged that his agent, Osama bin Laden, whom he had sent to Afghanistan at the start of the Afghan war in the early 1980s, would use his Afghan organization Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) to recruit “Afghan Arabs” for what was rapidly becoming a global Jihad. Bin Laden’s mercenaries were used as shock troops by the Pentagon and CIA to coordinate and support Muslim offensives not only Azerbaijan but also in Chechnya and, later, Bosnia.
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Chechnya then was traditionally a predominantly Sufi society, a mild apolitical branch of Islam. Yet the increasing infiltration of the well-financed and well-trained US-sponsored Mujahideen terrorists preaching Jihad or Holy War against Russians transformed the initially reformist Chechen resistance movement. They spread al-Qaeda’s hardline Islamist ideology across the Caucasus. Under Secord’s guidance, Mujahideen terrorist operations had also quickly extended into neighboring Dagestan and Chechnya, turning Baku into a shipping point for Afghan heroin to the Chechen mafia.
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According to Yossef Bodansky, then Director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, Washington was actively involved in “yet another anti-Russian jihad, seeking to support and empower the most virulent anti-Western Islamist forces.”

Bodansky revealed the entire CIA Caucasus strategy in detail in his report, stating that US Government officials participated in,

“a formal meeting in Azerbaijan in December 1999 in which specific programs for the training and equipping of Mujahideen from the Caucasus, Central/South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed upon, culminating in Washington’s tacit encouragement of both Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) and US ‘private security companies’. . . to assist the Chechens and their Islamist allies to surge in the spring of 2000 and sustain the ensuing Jihad for a long time…Islamist Jihad in the Caucasus as a way to deprive Russia of a viable pipeline route through spiraling violence and terrorism.”


I have not looked into the story about the attack in Dagestan but considering that the CIA were behind drawing the USSR into the Afghan war to give them their Vietnam as a means to defeat the Soviets through overstretched economic collapse, and as Engdahl documents then were behind the redeploying of these Islamic fundamentalists by literally flying them into Chechnya and the Bin Laden CIA connection to Al-cia-duh then as ISIS is the latest interaction of CIA connected terrorists originating out of the same geographical areas then it would be natural to assume that without the CIA's 30+ year history of covert attacks by proxy on USSR/Russia then the stimulus of fire behind the attack coordinated against Russian in Dagestan would be largely removed.

For you to make the statement suggesting it is somehow a joke to consider people talking on America's involvement in this terrorist attack as being silly seems to be misplaced. Simply, if the CIA as 'America' weren't a meddling power mongering beast then such ideological attacks on Russia would not be occurring.

So chalk up that attack of death to 'America the great' as well.




posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: JesuitGarlic

Uhm the CIA had nothing to do with the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan. A pro Russian group seized power in a coup in 1978 and proceeded to try and stamp out any resistance. That resulted in open hostilities between the coup faction and those who were opposed to it. In 1979 the USSR sent their forces in to protect the pro Russian government.

History also suggests that had the Soviets succeeded in keeping control of Afghanistan that part of Pakistan would have been next. The goal was to secure a warm water port in close proximity to the ME.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: JesuitGarlic
I have not looked into the story about the attack in Dagestan...

...

For you to make the statement suggesting it is somehow a joke...


Now, not only is my original comment a joke, but you are as well with that silly statement.

Call us after you 'looked into the story' and let us all know which agency you found lurking under the bed.



posted on Sep, 6 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In soviet Russia: Jokes on you?


Wait...




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