FOX News: Transgender girl drops class after 200 protest for and against her.

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a reply to: eriktheawful

this lila person reminds me of alexis arquette

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what do you think?

originally posted by: harvestdog
KMOV Missouri

More than 150 students walked out of Hillsboro High School over a dispute about the use of the girl’s locker room by a transgender student.

The walkout lasted for about two hours. Roughly 30-40 people showed support for senior Lila Perry, who wants to use the girls’ locker room during gym class. Perry was born a male but said she has identified as a female since 13.

“There’s a lot of ignorance, they are claiming that they’re uncomfortable. I don’t believe for a second that they are. I think this is pure and simple bigotry,” said Perry.

150 students walked out of a high school to protest a transgender student. The young man says he has identified as a girl since he was 13. In the video at the link, you can see him. Skinny boy but broad shoulders. He should probably put on some weight and he might not feel so girly.

Anyways, this story is about a selfish boy. He wants in the girl's locker room real bad. They gave him his own bathroom but he doesn't want that. He wants to be a girl. And damned if the other girls feel uncomfortable, he wants his way. I'd be willing to bet the girls would rather use his unisex bathroom one by one than change with him. I stand behind walkouts to protest these people. We give accommodations to this minority but they don't ease any fears we may have. Shame on him, we have not the means to make him perfectly comfortable in his skin. Out of our hands. Unisex or home school homie.[/quote

a reply to: harvestdog

Anyways, this story is about a selfish boy.

I don't know about Lila but trying to fit in is selfish?

He wants to be a girl.

Transgender people don't "want" to be of the opposite sex. They are born that way.

But anyway yeah unisex locker room seems to be a sensible solution.

a reply to: Mugly

Alexis Arquette is way more pretty and more fabulous. And Rosanna Arquette is so sexy.

does ATS stand for Angry Trans-Sexuals ????....

because that's what i'm seeing....

a reply to: Deaf Alien

He is selfish because he doesn't try to fit in like all the other outcasts. Everyone has times they don't feel comfortable, but you man up and suck it up. He's going to be going into a world that doesn't care to accommodate people if they can help it. Conform or don't conform, but don't ask us to conform to you when we find you mental.

He's selfish to use his accommodation so he needs to go. He can get his GED and man up. In the real world, we don't all get naked in locker rooms with others. It's bull that this has to be an issue for normal girls that don't want some boy seeing them naked.

a reply to: harvestdog

Most kids try to fit in and that is not selfish. I know that there are a few who just don't care.

Transgender Kids Show Consistent Gender Identity Across Measures

January 29, 2015

A study with 32 transgender children, ages 5 to 12, indicates that the gender identity of these children is deeply held and is not the result of confusion about gender identity or pretense. The study, led by psychological scientist Kristina Olson of the University of Washington, is one of the first to explore gender identity in transgender children using implicit measures that operate outside conscious awareness and are, therefore, less susceptible to modification than self-report measures.

The findings will be published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science.
Olson started the research project, partly out of her interest in how children think about social groups, but also because she’d witnessed the challenges of a close friend with a transgender child.

“Seeing how little scientific information there was, basically nothing for parents, was hard to watch,” Olson said. “Doctors were saying, ‘We just don’t know,’ so the parents have to make these really big decisions: Should I let my kid go to school as a girl, or should I make my kid go to school as a boy? Should my child be in therapy to try to change what she says she is, or should she be supported?” www.psychologicalscience.org...

Transgender: Evidence on the biological nature of gender identity

February 13, 2015
Medical care of transgender patients, including surgical and hormonal treatment, has largely been met with resistance by physicians in favor of psychiatric treatment, owing to misconceptions that gender identity can be changed. According to a review article in Endocrine Practice, there is increasing evidence of a biological basis for gender identity that may change physicians' perspective on transgender medicine and improve health care for these patients.

February 13, 2015

Disorders of gender identity affect as many as 1 in 100 people. Transgender individuals are those who identify with a gender that differs from their natal sex. Different etiologies have been suggested as the cause of transgender identify however none have been proven definitively.

The researchers conducted a literature search and reviewed articles that showed positive biologic bases for gender identity. These included disorders of sexual development, such as penile agenesis, neuroanatomical differences, such as grey and white matter studies, and steroid hormone genetics, such as genes associated with sex hormone receptors. They conclude that current data suggests a biological etiology for transgender identity. www.sciencedaily.com...

a reply to: Annee

Realistically, who cares what they WANT when safety of our little girls and wives are of concern. The safety of our children trumps any "real" transgender's desire to use the girls shower.

Convicted Pedophiles and Registered Sex Offenders are now "identifying" as transgender or saying they are and already have quite a few press reports of their activities.

Sorry. Keep biological men out of the girls showers period or you might find Women very hostile in the future if these things are allowed to happen.


The numerous stories of biological males, identifying as female and/or preferring to wear female clothing, who have sexually assaulted women and girls or otherwise sexually victimized them. Many people wrongly think that there is no danger to women and girls from those biological males who wear women’s clothing.

That simply is not true. There are numerous cases of males who identify as transgender females but who have been charged or convicted with raping women, as well as cases of transvestite (cross-dressing) men who have likewise been charged or convicted.

www.kgw.com...
Thomas Lee Benson, a convicted sex offender for having sexual contact with a minor girl, dressed as a woman so he could go into the women’s locker room at a swimming pool in North Clackamas, Oregon. There were young girls present in the locker room changing into their swimsuits while Benson was inside. Previously, Benson had dressed as a woman to enter a women’s dressing room at a pool in Portland, Oregon. Young girls where changing into their swimsuits in that dressing room, too.
Benson says that he now wants to live life as a woman and he is not a threat to girls

www.dailymail.co.uk... html
A high school swim team was subjected to a 45 year old biological male who identifies as a transgender woman sprawling naked in their locker room, exposing his genitals to them. Because of a SOGI, Washington’s Evergreen State College has allowed a 45 year old anatomical male who calls himself Colleen Francis to use its women’s restrooms and locker rooms. The college shares its swimming pool and adjacent locker rooms with the local high school and a children’s swim club. On several occasions in 2012, Francis exposed his genitalia to young girls—some as young as six—in the locker room. The mother of a 17 year old girl even filed a police report detailing what her daughter saw. A swim coach also filed a police report. She described seeing Francis sitting in the sauna with his legs open and his genitalia plainly exposed. Despite numerous complaints and the police reports, Evergreen State College continues


www.lifesitenews.com...

Christopher Hambrook pretended to be transgender to gain access to two different women’s shelters. He sexually assault a woman in each one.

Paul Witherspoon is a biological male who was convicted in 1990 for
sexually assaulting one teenage girl and indecency involving sexual
contact with another teenage girl. He is a registered sex offender. In
2012, however, Witherspoon was spotted wearing women’s clothing
going into the women’s bathroom in Dallas, where he would have
access to young girls. He was ticketed by a Dallas policeman. But
Witherspoon claims to be “transgender,” and says that he has every
right to use the bathroom with women and girls. He says that it is
discriminatory to deny him the right to use the women’s facilities.

www.calgarysun.com...
www2.canada.com...
Matthew Harks, of Calgary, Canada, has a strong preference for girls ages 5 to 8. He claimed that he had victimized some 60 girls and committed some 200 offenses with them. But he was convicted of sexual assault against only one—a 7 year old girl in British Columbia. He is on probation now, and in 2012 he changed his name to Madilyn, announcing that he was a transgendered woman.



prisonreformmovement.wordpress.com...

www.pennlive.com...

archives.sfexaminer.com...

Tyler Holder is a cross-dressing biological teenage male who abducted, raped, and murdered a six year old girl in Dallas, Texas, in July 2013. After he raped little Alanna Gallagher, he wrapped her head in plastic bags and smothered her.13



Sean Gossman is a biological male who considers himself a transgendered woman and lives in Onsted, Michigan. In May 2013, he showed up in court for his arraignment on child pornography charges dressed in feminine attire complete with a wig, makeup, stuffed bra, and halter top. Those who know him relate that he dressed like that all the time. They say that he told them he hoped Michigan would pay for his sex change operation.
It is not a crime to be transgendered. It is a crime, however, to possess thousands of pictures and movies of children being sexually assaulted. And that is what Gossman is charged with. Some of the pictures depicted children being tortured. One picture was of a baby girl with a noose around her neck and a bag over her head. Some news outlets report the baby was dead.

www.dailymail.co.uk...
Mark Lazarus has been described as “an extremely dangerous cross-dressing sex attacker.” In 2012, he waited outside a public bathroom for over an hour until a 71 year old woman went inside. Lazarus followed her, grabbed her, and tried to rape her. She only escaped because she screamed and Lazarus panicked and fled. He was ultimately arrested and convicted of attempted rape and sentenced to jail. Sadly, he had also previously assaulted an 11 year old girl while wearing female clothing.

He admitted sexually assaulting three young women during a bizarre course of behaviour lasting almost three months.
www.express.co.uk...

Aaron L. LaGrand posed as a woman for several years while gaining the trust of a Lisbon, Ohio family. Believing Aaron to be a woman, the parents invited him into their home to care for their four young children, ages 6 to 13. He used this opportunity to molest them. He was arrested in 2012, but the molestation occurred between 2004 and that year. It is not clear from the news articles whether Aaron actually identifies as transgender, but it seems likely. For many years he has lived as a woman and convinced everyone that he was a woman. He went by the name “Erin.”


Anyway, Allowing biological males into women’s bathrooms, shower rooms and locker rooms places women and children in danger, even if the biological males are wearing women’s clothing.

originally posted by: infolurker

Convicted Pedophiles and Registered Sex Offenders are now "identifying" as transgender or saying they are and already have quite a few press reports of their activities.

Really? That's where you're going to take this?

Are those Pedophiles 17 year old's in high school?

Mention gay/trans or anything but hetero - - - bring in the Pedophiles.

a reply to: infolurker

Very strong point.

Needs to be considered.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: infolurker

Convicted Pedophiles and Registered Sex Offenders are now "identifying" as transgender or saying they are and already have quite a few press reports of their activities.

Really?

That's where you're going to take this?

Are those Pedophiles 17 year olds in high school?

One was but that is not the story. The story is not letting EVERYONE who says they are transgender into a girls facility and have everyone scared to do anything or challenge because if they say "I AM TRANSGENDERED" DISCRIMINATION.

Blah blah blah.

So yes. No Biological males in the girls showers and locker rooms period as you are giving a free pass to any and all people who "say they are transgendered to have full unchallenged access.


And yes... Pedos and Registered Sex Offenders are saying they are "Transgender"


Are you cool with letting them roam free in the little girls room... I sure as hell am not. How are you going to prevent it.... The prevention is if a guy dressed as a woman goes into the girls room, get a cop.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: infolurker

Very strong point.

Needs to be considered.

Really?

Boy Scout leaders, Priests, school teachers.

If there have been cross-dressing Pedophiles - - - they're in the minority.

I have not read all 19 pages, so I am not sure if this sentiment has been expressed.
As a culture we are moving towards GBLTQ+ equality at a fairly fast pace when compared to how these issues would have been handled when I was her age.(Middle aged fat balding guy here )

If this were college and we were talking about adults, I would be all on board and women in the locker room would need to suck it up and deal with it.

However, we are dealing with minors and I can envision the legal quagmires that could ensue. All it takes is a couple of parents to scream something along the lines of indecent exposure to minor or some other similarly disgusting charge and it would ruin her life.
Our laws and culture are just not to the point where this kind of delicate matter can be dealt with when it comes to minors. Eventually they will be and I stand 100% behind her. But I also see the reality of it, and for her safety at this point in time, I think using the uni-gender bathroom is best. Someday we will reach the point where this is not an issue, hopefully sooner rather then later, but we just are not quite there yet.

FACTS: regarding Colleen Francis

Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard:
The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking.
At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children.
At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were.

So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.

See more at: www.transadvocate.com...

originally posted by: THEatsking

No. If those girls feel uncomfortable they can go change somewhere else. No one is restricted them to change in a girls locker room. The trans girl wants to change in a girls locker room. It's simple. She is the one being restricted, not the others. The solution isn't to make transgender people their own 'black water fountain' . That's insane.

The solution is to teach that she is a female, period. That's the way it is and those who are annoyed/uncomfortable to need get over themselves and stop being selfish. It's so exclusive. Disgusting.

I want to change in the female locker room too...don't restrict me!!!

originally posted by: Annee


Boy Scout leaders, Priests, school teachers.

If there have been cross-dressing Pedophiles - - - they're in the minority.

These make the news... but Annee your proving his point...

Pedophiles assume roles that will get them near their victims.

a reply to: Annee

Yes *really*