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NWO: Pieces of the Conspiracy

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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 11:15 AM
I believe that throughout all of modern history, we have slowly been moving towards a One World Government New World Order. I don't believe it is being orchestrated by a small group of people, sitting in a dark conference room, rubbing their hands while laughing diabolically. In fact, I don't necessarily believe that there is a single conspiracy with all parts working in tandem. I suspect the NWO movement is made up of separate conspiracies which, by following their natural order, are all moving towards the same end.

Although I believe this has been going on for quite some time, I do suspect that things are accelerating. Just as modern technology speeds up our individual lives (e-mails instead of letters; mobile apps for banking; video conference calls in lieu of travel, etc) I believe that these same technologies are expediting the planets movement toward the NWO.

Disclaimer: These are just my observations, so I encourage the reader to take it all with a few grains of salt.

Here are the (maybe) related conspiracies that I see going on. If anyone can shed some light on how they are related, or if anyone thinks I'm completely insane, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Here in the United States, at NO POINT did I think last year's wave of so-called "unaccompanied minors" was unexpected. It was completely orchestrated. (About a year before the "wave" the government sent out a RFP - Request for Proposal - for companies to house, clothe and feed illegal aliens). The Presidents meetings with La Raza reinforce this. At first, I thought that this was simple to stuff enough future welfare dependent future Democrat voters to make sure there will never be a republican led government again. However, now it appears that the same thing is happening in Europe. Hungary is shutting down their railroads. Czec president is contemplating using their military at the borders. I don't believe all this is happening in one great coincidence. I couldn't say for sure how this plays into the big NWO picture, other than to speculate that in order to move forward towards one world government, existing boundaries and cultures need to be decimated.

ISIS (or ISIL or IS... whatever the current name is):
ISIS is tearing up the region. This is no secret. So why does the West do nothing other than a token drone strike here and there? I suspect that the answer is the powers-that-be want there to be chaos in the region. The more, the better. At a time that suites them, they will declare that the entire region has simply become too unstable, and now the group (perhaps using the United Nations as a proxy) has no choice but to take over indefinitely.

Spying on Citizens:
In order to make drastic and substantial, material changes to the lives of all citizens, it is important to flag those who are potential trouble makers (those who may resist). This goes well beyond the United States' NSA. This is going on in all of the developed world.

The Pope and Religion:
I don't know how to phrase this other than to say that Pope Francis is a plant to push the NWO agenda. It is unprecedented that a Pope involve himself so much in politics on an international stage. All Popes express love thy neighbor, look after the less fortunate, etc. However, coming to Washington to speak to a joint session of Congress? I also find his push to essentially (my words, not his) Socialist agenda disturbing on topics ranging from illegal immigration to taxation of the developed world to his views on climate change. I'm not saying he has no right to his opinion, but his actions go above and beyond the typical role of the Pope. Further, if he were sincere, the Vatican would be a sanctuary city and he would sell-off some of the billions of dollars worth of items, antiques, artifacts and real estate and give it all to the poor. (I suppose that last part can be said of any Pope).
Lastly on this, I suspect the powers-that-be, at some point, informed the Catholic Church that if they want to have a place in the NWO, they better play by their rules.

Work more for Less:
The economic Golden Age of the West is over. Over the past few years, politicians and talking-heads have, here and there, explained that people need to lower their expectations in life. That they should expect to have smaller homes, have smaller cars, have less "things." This is preparing us to have close to nothing, so that anything, anything at all that they "let" us have will be greatly appreciated.
Look at this so-called "sharing economy." It's so pathetic out there that people are running around trying to piece together an existence. Driving people around on Uber. Running random errands for people (I think the app is called Rabit or something like that). My goodness, how is AirBNB even a thing? Have some complete stranger stay in your house for a week or so? It's THAT bad out there? Yes, yes it is that bad.

These are just a few things I see going on. Like I said, although I may not be right about the aforementioned issues, I still firmly believe that there are several somewhat independent conspiracies that are all moving us toward the ultimate One World Government New World Order. My biggest concern with that end, is that once available technology crosses the point where people are no longer valuable or needed by the power-that-be, then some of that seemingly impossible "depopulation" stuff will begin. I only have one child that is less than four years old, and I know this will take a while but I can only hope that say, my great grandchildren will be listed on the "useful" column.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:25 PM
I do believe it is inevitable to have a one world government.
The problem is, will this government be transparent and for the people, by the people, or will it be by the same secret societies that are working their hardest to keep humanity ignorant?

I also wouldn't quite discount a small group of greedy psychopaths working behind the scenes to rig everything. Why wouldn't it happen?

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:36 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

The immigration thing is happening for a number of reasons, and I think you're right that it's no coincidence EU is seeing similar issues as US last year. First of all, it means cheap labor for corporations (which have the politicians in their pockets). Division of people, language barriers and cultural barriers make it difficult for the masses to share in a cause together and thus make the masses more controllable.

Another point - the Pope couldn't just go an sell off relics and completely change the role of the Pope/Vatican. He still plays by the rules of his superiors - no I don't think the Pope is the most powerful, there must be others who are the real shot callers when it comes down to it. But He is involving himself in politics on a deeper level so I agree it could be tying into the larger agenda.

Currency is the big one for me - proposals for a new currency, many economists say the U.S. dollar will likely be replaced by a new World Reserve currency in due time (it is actually very overdue). The petrodollar is gradually dying off, more and more countries refuse to trade dollars for oil.

Currently the stock market is #ed and September is when this typically happens. All 30 companies in the DOW are down and the market seems more volatile than we've seen in a long time.

AXP American Express Co Current Price (CP): 74.29
-2.43 (change) -3.17% (percentage change) 74.15 (low) 75.3599 (high) 76.72 (previous close)
AAPL Apple Inc CP 110.2799
-2.4801 -2.20% 109.75 111.88 112.76
BA Boeing Co CP 127.96
-2.72 -2.08% 127.23 128.99 130.68
CAT Caterpillar Inc CP 74.87
-1.57 -2.05% 74.50 75.94 76.44
CSCO Cisco Systems Inc CP 25.34
-0.54 -2.09% 25.13 25.62 25.88
CVX Chevron Corp CP 78.711
-2.279 -2.81% 77.80 79.39 80.99
DD E I du Pont de Nemours and Co CP 50.31
-1.19 -2.31% 50.05 50.77 51.5
XOM Exxon Mobil Corp CP 72.43
-2.81 -3.73% 72.05 73.35 75.24
GE General Electric Co CP 24.045
-0.775 -3.12% 23.94 24.36 24.82
GS Goldman Sachs Group Inc CP 183.05
-5.55 -2.94% 182.3148 186.47 188.6
HD Home Depot Inc CP 113.49
-2.38 -2.05% 113.1687 114.75 116.46
IBM International Business Machines Corp CP 143.18
-4.71 -3.18% 142.73 144.98 147.89
INTC Intel Corp CP 28.00
-0.54 -1.89% 27.75 28.17 28.54
JNJ Johnson & Johnson CP 91.67
-2.31 -2.46% 91.4601 92.89 93.98
KO Coca-Cola Co CP 38.85
-0.47 -1.20% 38.57 39.03 39.32
JPM JPMorgan Chase and Co CP 61.68
-2.42 -3.78% 61.50 62.85 64.11
MCD McDonald's Corp CP 93.62
-1.40 -1.47% 92.60 94.28 95.02
MMM 3M Co CP 139.50
-2.64 -1.86% 139.0501 140.49 142.14
MRK Merck & Co Inc CP 52.37
-1.48 -2.75% 52.20 53.23 53.85
MSFT Microsoft Corp CP 42.085
-1.435 -3.30% 41.75 42.59 43.52
NKE Nike Inc CP 108.93
-2.82 -2.52% 108.22 109.83 111.75
PFE Pfizer Inc CP 31.68
-0.54 -1.68% 31.29 31.87 32.22
PG Procter & Gamble Co CP 69.36
-1.31 -1.85% 68.93 69.88 70.67
TRV Travelers Companies Inc CP 97.85
-1.70 -1.71% 97.25 98.55 99.55
UNH UnitedHealth Group Inc CP 112.75
-2.95 -2.55% 112.23 114.22 115.7
UTX United Technologies Corp CP 90.11
-1.50 -1.64% 89.28 90.68 91.61
VZ Verizon Communications Inc CP 44.98
-1.03 -2.24% 44.72 45.55 46.01
V Visa Inc CP 69.40
-1.90 -2.66% 69.23 70.39 71.3
WMT Wal Mart Stores Inc CP 63.62
-1.11 -1.71% 63.27 64.315 64.73
DIS Walt Disney Co CP 100.14
-1.74 -1.71% 99.30 101.3396 101.88

It certainly seems ripe for it. All of the pieces are in place anyway.

S & F, good thread
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:43 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

I stopped reading as soon as you mentioned socialist agenda. I have no idea of your nationality but a hundred bucks says you're a US citizen.

Your vapid distrust of socialism amuses me.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:45 PM
a reply to: FamCore

Admittedly I was oversimplifying the Pope's ability to do whatever he wants to.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:46 PM
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

You'd win that bet.

Edit: I could have used a better term or phrase.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:49 PM
a fair amount of intellectual types have been pushing for a one-government solution since the 1800s, especially in Europe. it's been tried several times (League of Nations) but there was always the one country that wouldn't play nice.
today most of Europe seems to be on the same non-nationalist page, so a true Euro union could happen. the muslims are a long way from this however. their vision of a one-world government means a Caliphate out of Baghdad.
I'm no expert. seems the big advantage is in facilitating trade, which includes some people movement. in my home state of Merryland there's a town called Delmar right on the Merryland-Delaware border. some streets are Merryland on one side and Del on the other, needing different post offices and telephone exchanges. IIRC there's a house on the line, one side in each state. nullifying that border helps everyone.
this works great as long as everyone is on a near-equal socioeconomic level. We have seen with Greece lately what happens when one part of the big happy family can't keep up. I suspect some East Euro nations are not much better off.
I can see a One Europe, but I think we're decades away from the third world being included.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:53 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

I'm really confused by the NWO conspiracy. Why are believers in this conspiracy so worried about this supposed one world government or new world order from happening? It seems to me that these nefarious people in charge would like things JUST the way they are. Everything is already clearly lopsided in their favor, why would they want to shake things up and possibly ruin a good thing? It just doesn't make sense...

If we are to assume that these guys have been planning this out for generations, they'd OBVIOUSLY be smart enough to come to the same conclusion I did.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:55 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

I starred you for honesty. 👍

I know you guys are terrified of socialism but from the things I see kicking off in your country right now, the wealth division over the pond is far worse over there than it is here (UK ). I miss our socialist ideals.

Ever since our utilities, infrastructure and mail services got privatised, the country has gone to crap.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 12:56 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

The government has also used Imminent Domain on a regular basis to acquire more land. I also think that the "Mortgage Bubble" that burst was all orchestrated. Economists saw it coming and warned what would happen but yet FreddieMac and FannieMae (prior to the burst) were still giving out 110%+ loan to value loans to customers as well has many mortgage companies like Bank of America.
My father works in real estate and has bought a few short sales. He says that dealing with the mortgage company or bank that holds the properties are so difficult to work with. They have all these empty houses that have been foreclosed or about to foreclose and yet seems as though there is no sense of urgency to recoup any money and sell the house. It is a very long process and many just give up in trying to buy one of these houses.
So why do I think this ties into a NWO "conspiracy"?
Well, I think that part of the agenda is to congregate as much of the public into the cities (apartments, condos, small living spaces with no land). We are seeing in larger cities these micro apartments and such. Take away land and you take away the ability to self sustain (grow crops, have a well, etc).
This is really not much of a conspiracy it is all laid out in Agenda21.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:08 PM
a reply to: Krazysh0t

My concern (not that I'll be alive by the time it would happen) is the old, "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely" (for lack of a better saying). It's difficult for me to explain but I would say, just in the current situation in the United States, a lot of people (of which I am one) sincerely believe that the elected officials care not one iota about us peasants. Don't get me wrong, I don't expect someone in office to be a saint, but the corruption, bold faced lies that they get away with negatively impacts everyone in the country (and unless you're one of the elite, it rarely affects your life in a positive way). I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the people in the capital a few hours drive south from me basically take advantage of (and I would argue abuse) me, what would be done if my life is essentially being run by elites on another continent. (I suppose one could argue that via multinational corporations, it already is).

Why would big shots who already have the power/influence want something like this? I suppose its human nature. Why does a billionaire want to become a multi-billionaire. (I'm not knocking successful people, just showing that sometimes enough is never enough).

Also, like I originally said, I don't think its tiny group of select individuals plotting in some smoke-filled back room. I think it is something (maybe inherent) in the way societies develop.

Lastly, I do acknowledge that there is nothing that I can prove. And I certainly hope I am dead wrong on all accounts. I'm just saying the way I see the world (which is always subject to change the more I learn).

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:09 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

Okay, I read the rest and agree on a lot of your points. It's just that the instant fear of socialism does amuse me due to the fact that private corporations are the ones screwing you/us on a daily basis.

I guess you consider this the standard in the USA but I remember the days when prices were reasonable for everyday commodities, farmers were paid fairly, I could get a train to the other end of the country for less than a week's wages, affordable gas and electricity, affordable petrol prices etc, etc.

All made possible by socialism.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:12 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

Did I mention FREE health care whenever I need it?

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:17 PM
a reply to: amberinsc

Without a doubt keeping the populace in concentrated areas would fit in as part of the plan. Like herding cattle.

Regarding imminent domain, every so often I read an article about yet another disturbing abuse of this power. It's one thing if, say, a town that has grown tremendously over the decades needs to expand their water/sewer utilities. It's something else when the end result is a developer building a shopping mall.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:19 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

I'm not saying that our leaders are entirely altruistic. I'm just doubting the claim that they are ALL working in cohoots behind the scenes against the public. To me, it looks like these people are just in it for themselves. They bend the rules and flat out break them to benefit themselves. Sometimes they collude with others to benefit themselves as a group, but only when their objectives align.

The reason why it SEEMS like there is a concerted effort against the public is because all these different sources are tugging at the system in their own ways, breaking things, etc. But in reality, they care about each other just as much as they care about the people they are screwing over. Not at all. Greed is greed. And greed is all about "me me me", not "us us us".

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:21 PM

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: eluryh22

Did I mention FREE health care whenever I need it?
I don't know what to think/believe about healthcare anymore. I hear horror stories from across the pond (incredibly long waits for certain procedures, etc). Then I hear that is all rubbish.

I do know that plenty of people with the means come to the United States for care.

I also know that we had some serious issues with the way the US system was. I also am starting to see that the Affordable Healthcare Act only made things worse for millions of people (skyrocketing premiums and deductibles). I'm fortunate in that I have always managed to find work with an employer that offered great benefits.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:28 PM
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I don't disagree with you entirely. I don't think they are all working in cahoots. In fact, I would speculate that most of our elected officials just follow orders (whether its a junior senator listing to a senior one or a politician listening to their biggest donors). Like I said, I don't think its a single group of people working one single master plan. I think its a few separate plans working towards one ultimate end. I would also guess that the biggest players are people that most of us have never heard off. Picture a less public George Soros type.

posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:29 PM
a reply to: eluryh22

To me, I'm not seeing an ultimate end. I just see too many people trying to get a bigger slice than they deserve. Keep in mind, that government HAS in the past cracked down on business and government corruption or passes legislation intended to do that. So it's not like we are seeing a single file march towards totalitarianism. There is give and take. The takers take too much, someone notices, we try to fix it, then someone else learns about other loopholes and takes advantage of that.

Another point to consider, the US' public perception of government corruption isn't that bad. 2014 Corruption perception index. If you read that link, the US is the 17th least corrupt country in the world as perceived by the country's own citizens.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:43 PM
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Evidently the propoganda masterminds are doing a great job.

Edit to add : 17th in the world is not a respectable rank...
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 01:52 PM
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

I didn't say it was respectable. I just said it wasn't that bad. Also, propaganda in a country with free speech can only be so effective. That's why countries with stricter controls on speech have higher corruption indexes.
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