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so i guess they are trying to treat "unlocked doors" as probable cause
Boulder residents who intentionally leave their doors open, may unintentionally be inviting a Boulder police officer in for a visit. Chrissy Smiley learned this fact in surprising fashion on Thursday afternoon when she returned to her south Boulder condo after a 40-minute walk with her dogs to find a card from a Boulder police officer sitting on her dining room table. Disturbed by the discovery, Smiley said she quickly called the officer back to ask why he had entered her home without her permission.
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: butcherguy
www.dailycamera.com... i guess its standard operating procedure to if you encounter an unlocked door (least in co) that the cops will let themselves into your home to "check on you" even if you are not home
so i guess they are trying to treat "unlocked doors" as probable cause
Boulder residents who intentionally leave their doors open, may unintentionally be inviting a Boulder police officer in for a visit. Chrissy Smiley learned this fact in surprising fashion on Thursday afternoon when she returned to her south Boulder condo after a 40-minute walk with her dogs to find a card from a Boulder police officer sitting on her dining room table. Disturbed by the discovery, Smiley said she quickly called the officer back to ask why he had entered her home without her permission.
originally posted by: jefwane
Most of the the reports right now are saying that the officer who was shot, was shot by another police officer.
WSB Atlanta, the local ABC affiliate has this posted on a link at their site.
WSB Comments
My friends brother was the one that originally called the police. Here is what he had to say.
9 hrs · Atlanta, GA · Shaking trying to type this right now. I was out walking my dog Diego. I live on a dead end street, walking towards the cul-de-sac. There is a man a ways in front of me (saw him walk into the neighborhood) that walks to the farthest house at the end of the street, knocks on the front door, and then kind of just stands in the front yard for a few mins. Seems a little sketch considering I have seen the house owner before and it was't him and there have been several reported break-ins down that way. I gave him the benefit of the doubt however (maybe he walked to the store, locked out, etc) and turned around and started walking back towards my house. Diego stops to sniff something and I turn around and now the guy is nowhere to be seen. I then hear a loud sound and then dogs barking. I stand around a second and don't see anyone come out. Kind of concerned at this point I call 911 and describe the house at the end of the cul-de-sac as well as the 50 year old black male and what he was wearing. I also told them that I wasn't sure anything was actually going on, and I wasn't trying to get anyone in trouble, but I felt like something wasn't right. A few minutes later I am getting back to the house (opposite the cul-de-sac, towards the entrance of our street) in front of my front door, when I heard 5 or 6 gunshots very close by and heard a woman screaming. Turned around and saw blue police lights already flashing and people yelling. I fumbled my keys and went inside, terrified. About a min or two later I peek my head outside and see one of my neighbors about 3 houses down (opposite direction from my walk) holding his leg and yelling something to the effect of "You killed my dog!" and "You shot me in my own house! Meanwhile the wife of the man was clutching their one year old child, hysterically walking down the street to a neighbors house. More cops come in, shotguns blazing. Cops running everywhere at this point. Meanwhile the wife is crying and telling the neighbors across from me what had happened. The frantic young wife was obviously furious and scared as she described cops coming in their back door and shooting her husband and shooting and killing their dog. An officer stayed with the man (white, young 30s) while he was still up the street in his own driveway, clutching his leg where he had been shot by the officer. According to neighbors during the chaos, an officer accidentally shot another officer. Both were taken away from the scene in an ambulance. I was later interviewed by a detective and provided them my full testimony since my 911 call was the call that the police were responding to. the Associated Press who requested to talk to me on the phone. (They were able to reach me because Ronnie my girlfriend was not able to get home after work and was talking to me on the phone outside of the neighborhood and the reporter asked to talk to me.) I did this because already on the news they were spinning the story. There was a report of a "manhunt" and a search for a "suspect". The "suspect" (or at least the suspicious person I called the cops on at the other end of the neighborhood) came walking back up to the crime scene shortly after. After speaking to him I realized that he was the person I had seen and he said he was trying to get someone to pay him for cutting their grass. I feel awful because I explicitly said on the 911 call that I was unsure if anything was actually going on but I had a bad feeling after hearing the loud noise and dogs barking, especially with all the recent break-ins. The cops actually never interviewed him (which at that point I don't think it mattered because it seemed pretty clear he hadn't stolen something or done anything wrong and walked up the street to a crime scene to talk about it). I am writing this partly as catharsis because I feel terrible that this all happened as a result. I'm also writing this because the news and media are already spinning this story to say that a police officer was shot in the line of duty while responding to a burglary call. While I give them credit for owning up to the fact that it was the wrong house (albeit presumably after I had given testimony to Associated Press), what they fail to highlight in this clickbait link is that this man who was sitting in his own house watching a movie with his wife was shot in the leg and his dog was murdered in his own house with his new baby in the house. The story is not "Let's all feel sympathetic for the cop that just killed a family's dog and and shot the unarmed homeowner in his own home." I want to say first off that I know a cops job is very hard and I respect the job and the men and women serving when they do it the right way. This was NOT the right way. I explicitly said a house at the end of the cul-de-sac yet the media said the house "matched the description". I never even gave them an address. If you hear news telling you different they are manipulating the story.
Apparently it was copied from a blog or website from the guy who initially called the cops and lives on the street.
Edit to add: I've tried finding the original source for that paste job at WSB, but can't as of yet.
GBI Press Release
Hey, how hard is it, in most of these cases where the dog gets shot, to have the officer ask the dog owner to restrain their dog before doing anything else?
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: jefwane
Thanks for posting that info.
The GBI confirms that the homeowner shot no one AND that the cops shot one of their own.
Trigger-happy much?
The shaky part of the GBI release is that the cops say that they tried to contact the occupants of the house but no reply, so they entered an unlocked back door.
I have trouble believing this.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
A tradesman knows to measure twice and cut once, you'd think the cops would check that house number before they raid wouldn't you?
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: chiefsmom
What would you suggest they do with aggressive dogs? Milk bone?
originally posted by: PeachesNCream
Dekalb police are the epitome of whats wrong with law enforcement these days. Some of the most corrupt police in GA. I've been to dekalb co. jail and am currently on probation at the moment. Some of the most corrupt people ive seen. Guarentee the cops will get off with no reprocussions.
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: butcherguy
www.dailycamera.com... i guess its standard operating procedure to if you encounter an unlocked door (least in co) that the cops will let themselves into your home to "check on you" even if you are not home
Smiley took up the issue Boulder police Sgt. Michael Everett, who in an email response to her inquiry, explained that entering unsecured residences is standard operating procedure for most law enforcement agencies, including, Boulder police, and one that is not likely to stop.
"There are many reasons for checking residences that are left open," Everett wrote in his response. "They include in-progress crimes and injured parties inside. There are situations which create a duty for officers to enter and check residences. Failure to do so creates liability for that officer and agency."
He added that the practice is backed by sound legal reasoning and is consistent with best practices for law enforcement agencies.
Boulder police spokeswoman Laurie Ogden supported Everett's statements.
She noted that the officer was visiting Smiley's home to follow up on another officer's attempt to serve her a summons for a dog off leash violation and failure to remove animal excrement.