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Video Shows Deputies Shooting Man With Hands Up

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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:23 AM
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I must say I've never seen nothing like this before, no if and's or but's. The video is taken from about a hundred yards away or so showing two officers and guy clearly having some type of dispute.

It appears as if the two cops are having a difficult time getting to the man, as it can be seen he is moving about walking away from the officers. At this point he turns around, heads toward the cops and stops; they are at least ten feet from him, raises his hands in the air for a good three seconds, then he's shot down.

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SAN ANTONIO - The unedited version of a video obtained by KSAT 12 News showing the fatal shooting of a man by two Bexar County sheriff deputies will now be made available for online viewing.

The video will include the actual moment the 41-year-old suspect, Gilbert Flores, was shot outside a home in the 24400 block of Walnut Pass. The video also shows what deputies Greg Vasquez and Robert Sanchez did moments after the shooting. Vasquez and Sanchez are on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.


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Unfreaking believable...
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:27 AM
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They shot him with his arms raised, turned, and walked away..

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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:32 AM
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Death Penalty.


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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:42 AM
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The man obviously surrendered in an aggressive fashion. The brave, valiant LEOs on scene felt their lives were endangered by the evil miscreant's palms pointing towards them, as FOP has declared "some palms are, in fact, guns". Seeing the dangerous, threatening palms held high in the air pointing directly at them, the knight-like LEOs felt it necessary to defend their lives, nay, their very souls, against the terrifying onslaught.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

You really cant see what his left arm/hand is doing because of the power pole , but that being said , it is not a good look .


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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

I assume this dead bloke will get a state funeral and lots of positive media coverage just like the innocent cop gunned down at the servo.

Unless someone can explain the difference to me without inserting "poor innocent cops, they got a really tough job, could die any minute, it's really really hard" PC BS.

The cop is a murderer and should himself face the death penalty by lethal injection - or 3 minutes on a treadmill - both will give the same result.


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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:50 AM
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You won't hear about this shooting in the MSM .. dude was not black .. because it says "BlackLiveMatters" ..


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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

We just watched another #en murder by cop, look around people. Look what is happening, people are being gunned down and abused daily, this is unacceptable.

The system is clearly failed, and the casualties of a failed system are displayed regularly, it's time to understand this cannot happen anymore! Not another life, all lives matter, abuse of power is rampant, the media is spinning these issues constantly trying to push a race issue.

This is not a race issue, that is the way they focus the conversation and keep the house divided! this is abuse of power. We must come together and not be divided and so easily swayed, by the establishment.

we need to guide the discussion from the ground up. This is unacceptable and we have to change it. That man did not deserve to die, my thoughts and prayers are with his family.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 03:52 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Daedal

Unless someone can explain the difference to me without inserting "poor innocent cops, they got a really tough job, could die any minute, it's really really hard" PC BS.




Well, if that's the case, I would have no issues with this killing.. but it was not that case as you pointed out.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 04:00 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft

The cop is a murderer...


Pish! Tosh! Piffle!

You have obviously never seen Doctor Strange in action. An adept's palms ARE DEADLY WEAPONS. I'm sure the stalwart LEOs saw the first nacreous glow of arcane power beginning to form about the scum's hands, and defended themselves before the spell was complete.

I, for one, am relieved that these champions sans peur et sans reproche went home once more at the end of their shift, victorious over the powers of darkness.


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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 04:16 AM
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I saw it. I saw with my own eyes they shot him with his hands up.

He wasn't attacking. Previous to the shooting, he was in evade mode - trying to get away, not attacking.

Check my posts, I used to stand up for cops. This has slowly changed and now I am the opposite. So I have this to say:

It is OUR DUTY TO VIDEO POLICE. If you are hungry, cold, hot, have children with you, are afraid of attracting law enforcement attention towards yourself, late for work, tired, it doesn't matter.

WE ALL HAVE A DUTY TO FILM LAW ENFORCEMENT and to take a page from Michael Thomas's book. Michael Thomas filmed from a safe distance not attracting attention to himself, moving his car to get a better angle and keep the victim in the frame. He then sold for the low price of $100 the video exclusively to one news source. It is my opinion the dollar amount was purely to give the transaction more legal weight...not for personal gain.

I WILL DO SO - AS SHOULD YOU - FILM THEM - if they know they will be filmed, perhaps they will behave like a citizen of this planet.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
~Martin Niemöller



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 06:08 AM
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I can't find the video on the alternative source. Did it move or am I just missing it?

And this is just a question so nobody get butt hurt about it: for anybody watching on a computer, can you see the deceased's left arm? I can't on my phone because it's behind the telephone pole.

Anyway, my first reaction is somebody had a negligent discharge. Negligent in the most extreme sense of the word.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 06:10 AM
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Anyone with an investigative eye can show you at around 57 seconds the suspect drops his hands before shots are fired, one if cops have you have your hands up and you drop them that quickly don't expect a warning. You could be reaching for a gun and clearly no closer witnesses so imma stand by the cops on this one. Like I said clearly shows his hands drop a split second before the gunshots and keep in mind their were two shots so definitely a takedown shooting. Looks legit to me until further evidence disproves.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 06:32 AM
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I don't want to make light of this situation, but this guy was white. So doesn't this fly in the face of the black lives matter movement? Some police officers are clearly guilty of shooting unarmed citizens, both black and white.

In defense of the police, many criminals escalate the situation and refuse to follow a simple order to submit. Police are armed, why would anyone in their right mind run, argue or refuse to submit? Considering how unarmed suspects are being shot by police, it should be a wake-up call to anyone dealing with police. We can record police with cell phones and now more and more police are wearing body cameras. It's better to fight abuse of power in a court of law rather than risking your life at the hands of a trigger happy police officer!

We need to stop ignoring why some of these individuals have put themselves in these situations in the first place. Blaming all law enforcement officers because of a few bad cops is just like the black lives matter movement complaining blacks are being profiled. Well they're doing the same exact thing to police!




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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: 5thNovember
a reply to: Daedal

Anyone with an investigative eye can show you at around 57 seconds the suspect drops his hands before shots are fired, one if cops have you have your hands up and you drop them that quickly don't expect a warning. You could be reaching for a gun and clearly no closer witnesses so imma stand by the cops on this one. Like I said clearly shows his hands drop a split second before the gunshots and keep in mind their were two shots so definitely a takedown shooting. Looks legit to me until further evidence disproves.


It seems pretty clear to me that his arms dropped after he was shot.!

Remember, the video is shot from some distance away...so there is a delay in the sound of the gunshots reaching the microphone. So, his hands were up at the time the shots were fired, as I see it.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Daedal

I don't want to make light of this situation, but this guy was white. So doesn't this fly in the face of the black lives matter movement? Some police officers are clearly guilty of shooting unarmed citizens, both black and white.

In defense of the police, many criminals escalate the situation and refuse to follow a simple order to submit. Police are armed, why would anyone in their right mind run, argue or refuse to submit? Considering how unarmed suspects are being shot by police, it should be a wake-up call to anyone dealing with police. We can record police with cell phones and now more and more police are wearing body cameras. It's better to fight abuse of power in a court of law rather than risking your life at the hands of a trigger happy police officer!

We need to stop ignoring why some of these individuals have put themselves in these situations in the first place. Blaming all law enforcement officers because of a few bad cops is just like the black lives matter movement complaining blacks are being profiled. Well they're doing the same exact thing to police!


However...in this situation, the individual had ceased his resistance and was simply standing still with his hands in the air.

This situation is a clear case of two police officers deciding to execute a guy...likely because he had just injured a woman and a small child.

Dirt bag? Yes. Death Penalty deserved? You tell me.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 07:28 AM
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originally posted by: mobiusmale

originally posted by: 5thNovember
a reply to: Daedal

Anyone with an investigative eye can show you at around 57 seconds the suspect drops his hands before shots are fired, one if cops have you have your hands up and you drop them that quickly don't expect a warning. You could be reaching for a gun and clearly no closer witnesses so imma stand by the cops on this one. Like I said clearly shows his hands drop a split second before the gunshots and keep in mind their were two shots so definitely a takedown shooting. Looks legit to me until further evidence disproves.


It seems pretty clear to me that his arms dropped after he was shot.!

Remember, the video is shot from some distance away...so there is a delay in the sound of the gunshots reaching the microphone. So, his hands were up at the time the shots were fired, as I see it.

So then by your argument the video is useless claiming errors make the video appear different. Then sorry you can't use this as evidence either. Again clearly see the hands drop before the shots almost a whole second before. Doesn't take a genius just a good connection.
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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

Police officers, given as they are, a duty to uphold the law, and protect and serve communities, must be held to a higher standard than they currently are, and moreover, than regular citizens.

This video appears to show two officers behaving to a lower standard than most law abiding citizens, and even some criminals. The book should not be merely thrown at them, but bound in sheets of iron, and fired at them from the muzzle of a rail gun. What a pair of dirty bastards.



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 07:36 AM
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What make this story even better is the station post on their Facebook page after the shooting got leaked.

Bexar County Sheriff's Office Facebook

For the people that can't get to Facebook at this time. I've quoted the post.


Today, members of our local media chose to broadcast online unedited video of a man's death. KSAT 12 paid a neighbor who filmed the tragedy $100 for the exclusive rights to the video. As a result, people from outside our community have bombarded us with inappropriate comments, and today, physical threats toward our deputies. These deputies have not been charged with a crime and a family lost their loved one. This is unethical and sad. Call KSAT and let them know what you think - (210) 351-1277. If you agree, let the local media know this sort of sensational behavior doesn't fly in Bexar County.


Here is a link to the DailyMail if they happen to change the post later. They have a screen cap' of the post on the article.

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posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 07:47 AM
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Good find there, OZ. It sure hurts my eyes to read though.

It's OK to mow persons down. But not OK for us to know about it.

That is what they're saying, right?

Got it.

As such, in the eyes of LE, we are supposed to wait for another OS? Another sack of filth to eat from?

And then, moderators will chime in that people died, so it's all true!
But is this absurd argument not the crutch of every black op? Even the holocaust is supported this way. Anything they say happened, happened, because people died. No wonder the guy with the camera was afraid to get closer.

Thanks for posting this. Oh…and nobody worry. They're trying to 'get this right' for the Flores family. Sure they are.
Uh uh. That means they need to cook up an OS and their task just got harder. I think the guy ought to have waited a few days before bringing out the footage, like the time Long Beach cops used a firing squad and naval swat gunboat to gun down Jason Conoscenti.

Now…where is this place…Bexar County?

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