Russians & NASA Discredit 'Fossil Fuel' Theory: Demise of Junk CO2 Science

a reply to: jinni73

Thank you

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM

Methane gas is a byproduct of oil my friend

Methane is not petroleum.

only because its in a gaseous state...But once petrol has been thinned to gasoline....Vapor

Methane is not gasoline vapor.

Can you prove that unequivocally?

a reply to: SPECULUM

Only in those zones, not the entire surface of the planet, because if that was true? earth would have to be much older than the geological record its carbon dating.

What?
Carbon dating is not used for geological purposes. It is used for archaeology and can only be used for periods of about 50,000 years. The Earth is much, much older than that.

Believe everything they tell you.

You are just a biomechanical process. Intwlligence doesn't exist, creativity doesn't exist.

There is no self or soul.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: jinni73
Methane is not petroleum.

Methane is the lightest element of oil www.ucsusa.org...--Uk
The current teaching says oil Is from fossils which is derived from hydrocarbons yet it is everywhere throughout our universe meaning the theory Is wrong and especially when oil deposits are drilled and then refill,


quatr.us...

Out in space, the biggest hydrocarbon molecules are amino acids. But here on Earth, those amino acids were able to hook up with each other to make protein molecules. One protein molecule can contain hundreds of amino acids in various combinations. All living cells are made out of those protein molecules, so all living cells are made out of hydrocarbons: your body, fish, sweet potatoes, trees, cheese, seaweed. Anything that was once alive is also made of hydrocarbons, so that also includes things like oil (made out of plants that died billions of years ago), gasoline and plastic (made out of oil), rubber, wood, food, alcohol, and many medicines like antibiotics.

perdurabo10.tripod.com...
Here's an interesting story shows you how they pretended there was a shortage in America to drive the price of fuel up.

I know here in Australia when the price of fuel was 120 cents the government received 97 cents in tax, they just use it as another way of taxing the public they even go as far as creating non existant roadworks so people burn more fuel and they receive more tax because they are sitting in traffic jams.

a reply to: onequestion

But there is oil on Titan?

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM

Methane gas is a byproduct of oil my friend

Methane is not petroleum.

only because its in a gaseous state...But once petrol has been thinned to gasoline....Vapor

Methane is not gasoline vapor.

Can you prove that unequivocally?

Yes?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM

Only in those zones, not the entire surface of the planet, because if that was true? earth would have to be much older than the geological record its carbon dating.

What?
Carbon dating is not used for geological purposes. It is used for archaeology and can only be used for periods of about 50,000 years. The Earth is much, much older than that.

I meant radiation dating, not carbon.

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM

Only in those zones, not the entire surface of the planet, because if that was true? earth would have to be much older than the geological record its carbon dating.

What?
Carbon dating is not used for geological purposes. It is used for archaeology and can only be used for periods of about 50,000 years. The Earth is much, much older than that.

I meant radiation dating, not carbon.

Then what did this mean?

earth would have to be much older than the geological record

Please people, don't fall into a sophisme...

Methane is part of petroleum.
Methane is present on other planet,
Therefore, Petroleum exist on other planet.

I do like the idea that petroleum can have an inorganic origin tough...

a reply to: jinni73

Are you an expert on the topic? PhD ? Just curious

originally posted by: PersonneX
Please people, don't fall into a sophisme...

Methane is part of petroleum.
Methane is present on other planet,
Therefore, Petroleum exist on other planet.

I do like the idea that petroleum can have an inorganic origin tough...

Methane isn't even part of petroleum. Carbon and Hydrogen are, sure. Methane is a gas though. That's gas, as in a state of matter. Not gas, as in gasoline.

a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

Do you think that the methane has something to do with the fact that it was once organic matter?

I have to say that after reading all of the posts in this thread,

I feel a little bit dumberer about methane, petroleum, Titan, and hydrocarbons.

Please keep up the great work.

Deny Ignorance? We just embraced it!!!!

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: SPECULUM

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM

Only in those zones, not the entire surface of the planet, because if that was true? earth would have to be much older than the geological record its carbon dating.

What?
Carbon dating is not used for geological purposes. It is used for archaeology and can only be used for periods of about 50,000 years. The Earth is much, much older than that.

I meant radiation dating, not carbon.

Then what did this mean?

earth would have to be much older than the geological record

4.4 billion years. if Subduction erased the entire surface, it would have to be much older according to U-238, or Potassium/Argon (K/Ar) dating...Yes?..No?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

Do you think that the methane has something to do with the fact that it was once organic matter?

What methane, and what "it"?

a reply to: SPECULUM
No.
Who said anything about the entire surface?

a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

I think two definition of petroleum exist. One broadly used, talking about a mix, and a more precise one. I think this is another cause of the argument we got right now. I thinks this is why they use crude oil as the term for the liquid part in stock market.


EDIT: I think I should say that english is not my native language, and I don't know popular meaning of words. Often in my language, words have a strick meaning, but some people use it for a broader use.

originally posted by: Timely
a reply to: jinni73

The article was from Nov. 2014.

Yes exactly this is why I was surprised no-one else had put this on ATS as it was from such a long time ago yet we are still being told Oil is running out when it is not.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SPECULUM
No.
Who said anything about the entire surface?

you did earlier...lol