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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: yuppa
Tell me about the white plastic bag...distant from the victim and the perps against the wall..not near either of them, but picked up by the man when he left. Wrong hood might be correct. This is drug territory related IMO. Watch the video...whats up with the bag he takes when he leaves. He didn't drop it, wasn't near it...no one was near it. She was just standing outside a convenience store? Waiting for what?
Why would both of them be standing away from the bag? If it was hers why was she just waiting a distance from it. If it was his, why was it no where near him? What was in the bag? Why did they beat her before taking it?
Tell me a story of racism....If I am a racist I will believe you..
But the video doesn't tell the whole story...and the white plastic bag has something to say as well...
Use you brain, it's good for you.
originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: yuppa
I've met my far share of racists over the years on both sides of the fence - believe me.
Right now I live in an area that is right smack dab in the middle of a Neo-Nazi and KKK corridor that runs all up and down the center of the state. I've heard these types of complaints left and right and all over the damn place. I've been accussed of being a "race traitor" by Caucasians just because I haven't taken ONE singular negative experience and used a broad brush to color an entire community of people.
I'm sorry you ran into assholes, really - I am. I've run into them on both sides of this issue.
Still do- all the time - and I'm sick of it.
The problem is that most people embroiled in this debate take bad experiences and never look beyond them.
Does my neighborhood have issues?
Oh hell yes.
But when you get past the skin color issue and look a little deeper - you'll discover it's primarily and educational and socio-economic issue influence by folks who would prefer to sit in the comfort of their deeply held personal ideologies instead of looking for something better to see in another person.
The tattoo parlor in my old neighborhood down the road where I was picked on mercilessly for being a "white girl" on "turf" is a combination of older males both black and white, ex-members of gangs and organizations who used to fight to the death over stupid issues like racial groupings, but now...in the interest of peace and social harmonies...work together to help hold the younger and more impressionable members of the region to a higher standard than racial overtones.
This whole issue is ridiculous.
The fact of the matter is we don't know what motivated the attack - but everyone is so keen on focusing on the racial disparage that that's all anyone is interested focusing on and talking about.
To suggest anything else is "victim blaming".
ETA - just read your edit - no harm no foul. It's a tense issue, I understand. I've gone through phases where the worst things came out of my mouth over frustration about some of the more negative factors that run in and through our neighborhood from time to time. The fact still remains that there are a lot of decent people around here who just want to go about their business as calmly and quietly as possible without having turf wars flaring up all over the place all the time. The kids are the worst about it, and the elders of the community go to great lengths to keep those fighty little twerps in line.
I really wish these things weren't an issue - yes, there are culture variances in the hood that most folks aren't always aware of, but if you find yourself living in one long enough, you begin to notice how things work, and why. That's all I was getting at with my initial post...the girl looked drugged up or out of it and may have had prior history in the area with negative outcomes.
Not saying I'm right or the beating was justified, just saying....sadly...that's how things sometimes go down.
originally posted by: celticsea
I agree this is problem. About 15 years ago I got lost in a majority black part of the city and stopped to ask for directions at a gas station. As I was getting out of the car an older black man walked toward me and said" You best be getting up outta here". I don't know if he was warning me or just being hateful. I turned around and got back in my car and got up outta there. Drove to a different gas station where there were people like me to ask for directions. Good thing I knew which general direction to drive to find it, but what if I didn't. That could have been me. Really scary.
originally posted by: jude11
My opinion and my opinion only is because it doesn't serve the current agenda of labeling the white population as racist