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originally posted by: nerbot
Let's get it sorted for those that are already inhabiting this ball of dirt first, then we can speculate on those who may join us later. Trying to better the lives of the unborn is slightly hypocritical imo.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: TechUnique
Nothing to do with you dude tbh.
Womans choice simply as, no other way.
You wanna make it illegal?.
originally posted by: mymymy
I agree with what you're saying, but the problem is the people who shout down abortion the loudest will just end up pissing and moaning about the cost to raise these kids. It's just a circular argument
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TechUnique
I have a CPS (Child Protective Services) story. My friend was homeless when his wife delivered in the hospital and the CPS rep. there kept trying to talk her out of the baby, saying stuff like, its the best thing, you can't provide a safe home, don't you want to do whats right…
My friend said they even hooked his son all up to machines and said he was 'sick' and needed to stay for 'treatment'. The lady wouldn't relent, badgering the mother to tears who was still in recovery. When my friend finally decided to remove the baby from the hospital and get a second opinion about his health somewhere else he went in and removed the child from the machines, wrapped him and his wife in a blanket and as they started out were met by CPS police who blocked their path out the front doors. My friend did a chest shove, knocking down a guard and ran outside where luckily, real cops were.
They listened for a moment and sided with my friend saying a parent has every right to seek a second opinion, and told the CPS cops to lay off.
In the end my friend said his impression was they wanted the baby to sell it, they were getting thousands back then for adoption fees, pressuring those that were unfortunate or too poor to fight them.
It wasn't against the law technically what they were doing, either. Neither is being homeless. The baby was pronounced healthy at a second facility, my friend took the mother and the baby to his mothers and they stayed there until he could get back on his feet.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: TechUnique
Come up with solutions to reduce abortion and actually do something then.
Educate women spend the money on making sure they have access to contraception and educate us men also.
You are never going to stop women get abortions so make sure they have safe places to do so and educate them more there.
You are just demonizing women for what they have done for thousands of years.
You can not carry a fetus for 9 months neither can I so what right have we as men got to tell women what is right or wrong about their own bodies?.
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: TechUnique
Yes and it doesn't help them does it us telling them how wrong it is....
I can understand why some get abortions I know it is not a decision taken lightly. It is up to them to sort out their guilt or their maker not you or me because we have not concept of what it is like carrying a child.
Lets not vilify the abortion but lets vilify people not using contraception when they should have.
It isn't a person btw...you have to be born to be a person.
originally posted by: TechUnique
I just think that abortion is wrong. Even if a woman was raped then that is no more the child's fault than it is the woman's fault. Some situations just suck, period. It doesn't mean that a life should be ended because of it.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TechUnique
Many women DO choose to put their unwanted babies up for adoption. But no woman should be forced to carry a pregnancy to term, only to have her born baby ripped away from her and given to strangers.