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The real reason there is a war against western heritage

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posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: Talorc

I was surprised by one of the latest Bond movies, who they were referring to couldn't have been more obvious.

"You should know something about me and the people I work with. We deal with the left, or the right, with dictators, or liberators. If the current president had been more agreeable, I wouldn't be talking to you. So, if you decide not to sign, you will wake up with your balls in your mouth and your willing replacement standing over you. If you doubt that, then shoot me, take that money, and have a good night's sleep."

a reply to: LittleByLittle

It's cool. =)




posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: edward777
I have no idea why people have to immediately make this into an anti-immigrant discussion because that is certainly not the intent of the post. The religion of the NWO is globalism, not the kind we think of when discussing being able to skype with someone in Africa but the type that seeks to eradicate diversity of culture as its main goal and replace it with a homogenized, consumeristic, substitute -- and yes, one which will phase out freedom and replace all our liberal traditions with a dystopian nightmare, but one in which Big Brother will be presented with a happy face...and willing to help you adjust with all sorts of prescription drugs. In this world there will be freedom in regards to sexuality, with the only sort of vice being the desire to marry and make babies.

Connections to the past will prevent integration to this brave new age of enlightenment.


You're definitely on to something here and in your OP.

To an extent there's a bigger picture here, one that acts as an umbrella over the push to attack Western Civilization. That over arching agenda is the NWO Globalization and push toward a One World Government and they've been at that since 1945. The Intellectual elites in their ivory towers and their cush gov't sinecures have long pushed for an agenda that includes open borders, cultural suicide through mass population relocation, the worship of Multiculturalism and the worship of the idyllic "Diversity". The underlying agenda is to counter and to wipe out any sense of "Nationalism". They saw overzealous "Nationalism" as the cause of both WWI and WWII and decided the best way avoid a WWIII would be to totally undermine in anyway possible the whole concept of "Nationalism" while at the same time instilling in the minds of the youth that they are "Global Citizens"; that they have "obligations and responsibilities" as Global Citizens.

And so we see a push for cultural suicide in the form of eradicating any signs, monuments and flags of the Confederacy and we'll soon see a push to demand the US flag no longer be flown over schools. In California the courts ruled that its improper for kids to wear T-shirts with the American flag to school on Cinco de Mayo.

The truth is that this movement is so long in the tooth, so well rooted in the "systems" that its virtually unstoppable. The future belongs to the Intellectual Elites and their social engineering agenda and the borders will remain open, the refugees will flood in from all over the world and the NFL will slowly be replaced by "FUTBOL".

Whatever..........



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

So how do you sort the demographics? By magic and ideals? We had the ättestupan and Jäntelagen to correct them, is it morally correct, in a modern society, no. But the Nature works in that direction. You reside in the kingdom of David, it is a golden age.

We are as someone quoted noble savages, but dont forget a coin always have two sides.
When most are unaware, you keep em that way, let them tell stories. Act as a guiding light, cause the worst is to come.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: edward777

Recognizing that "non-western" heritage has equal value is not a war on "western heritage".

Also...I am confused where the Confederate Flag represents "Western Heritage"??

What about the British Monarchy? Should we admonish the founding fathers for abolishing their heritage?

The same way that recognizing that gay people are not somehow less important than straight people..is not a war on straight people.

In short - don't be an idiot.


edit on 29-8-2015 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: yulka

it is good to know you think i am sh/t. like i said. give it a few years..... i would be pissed too if i lived in a socialist environment.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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www.breitbart.com...

breitbart.com/london/2015/08/16/muslim-and-gypsy-gangs-battle-for-supremacy-on-streets-of-europe/
edit on 29-8-2015 by FlyingFox because: freedom



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: CJCrawley

Yes, I suppose Germany is the sleeping giant here. But also, France.

A few years ago we had a few major European politicians that proclaimed the failure of multiculturalism. So they're definitely changing gears.


Chirac stepped back a LONG time ago in a major interview, stating that "multiculturalism is dead", circa 2009.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: fixitwcw

We are the utopia of a marxist state, we pay our politicians a salary so the rest of the people dont have to talk, if you want to category Sweden we are a dictatorship, our lobbyism is called oligarchy, you think a Imaginary Unicorn gives you a job, salary, if i had a choice, between your captalism of a dogma and a socialist state, yeah id probably pick the second. If you make your own food, sell your handcrafted stuff, provide for yaself, i would say, good. But you dont do you, do you consider yourself productive? I would likely say, you arent, id say you are employed.
Now you live a privileged life, in nature you would die, remember that a God keeps you alive.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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They saw overzealous "Nationalism" as the cause of both WWI and WWII and decided the best way avoid a WWIII would be to totally undermine in anyway possible the whole concept of "Nationalism" while at the same time instilling in the minds of the youth that they are "Global Citizens"; that they have "obligations and responsibilities" as Global Citizens.

And so we see a push for cultural suicide in the form of eradicating any signs, monuments and flags of the Confederacy and we'll soon see a push to demand the US flag no longer be flown over schools. In California the courts ruled that its improper for kids to wear T-shirts with the American flag to school on Cinco de Mayo.

The truth is that this movement is so long in the tooth, so well rooted in the "systems" that its virtually unstoppable. The future belongs to the Intellectual Elites and their social engineering agenda and the borders will remain open, the refugees will flood in from all over the world and the NFL will slowly be replaced by "FUTBOL".


Absolutely! And not only nationalism but any sort of absolutism (truth) such as the traditional family being the ideal form of marriage and reproduction or the US Constitution being the supreme law of the USA.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

Cause you cant live in a multiculture, you cant have 3000 rules for one small community, this is what happens when idealists come to power, you get a bunch, uhm, Hippies(?) You can live in a diverse world, or even better make a Venus project, Ideals makes conflicts, one world govern, or one world ideals takes away conflicts based on ideals.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: yulka

I live in a multicultural community. We have Polish folks, Turkish, Pakistani, Iranians, Iraqis, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, folks from the West Indies, Jamaica, various African nations, all living within a mile of me. Three miles away, the mix is so dense with diversity, it's like walking the whole world by passing down the high street! Its lovely! One of our closest neighbours, and one of my personal favourite human beings, is an Austrian lady who has lived here since the sixties, and identifies as British. She and my mother get on very well, and she comes to our house every Sunday for dinner, and my mother visits with her every evening after work.

So much colour, vibrancy, and never a dull moment. In my business life, I have been lucky enough to do work for members of most of those various cultures, and I have to say, that aside from not having been laid for two and a half years, which has nothing to do with it, but is my only gripe in life, I love life in this massively diverse and ever changing community.

There ARE folk who cause issues, who allow the fact that these folks are being shoehorned into this area over time by the government, to colour their attitude toward their fellow man, but you know what? Most of those people are what some would falsely refer to as natives. I understand my place in the order of things, and I also understand that it would do my ancestors no honour to allow myself to fall into such behaviour. There is no glory in it, no honour, no reason. These many, delightful, pleasant, and not at all evil or dangerous people, are not, and never could be my enemy, because they are under the same pressures as me when it really comes down to it. They need food, shelter, warmth in the winter, and to be cool in the summer, and to live their lives free of the arbitrary machinations of a government gone mad.

In that way, we share common goals, and common problems, and so they are my brothers and my sisters just as much as are those whose ties to these isles stretch back generations upon generations. I realise that may not be a widely held opinion, but unlike those opinions which run to the contrary, it comes from innate understanding of my place in this grand pantomime that is life. The fact is, none of us are here to occupy space, and fill it only with things which are familiar to us. We should not expect that, nor endorse it.

We should absolutely insist that the laws of this land remain unchanged by any influence from other lands of course, because otherwise the risk is that the place would become a different land, and that would soon cease to suit those who have come here seeking peace, having been in war zones and dictatorships, but in terms of how I view the presence of my fellow human beings... I love having so much of the world on my doorstep. It reminds me that I am but one small part, of a very big whole, one which I could explore until my dying breath, and understand but a percentage of. It brings me closer to the awe which makes every day a rich and exciting experience, rather than an entirely dull, and formulaic one.

There is no war against heritage here. Just people trying to get along, in a nation whose government treat each of its citizens, whether newly arrived or established over centuries, like nothing more than numbers, and sometimes like less than animals. We are all in the same canoe here, despite the right wing protestations to the contrary. Oddly, it is the right wingers who prevent that canoe from moving forward, by refusing to row with any team not one hundred percent British, whatever they idiotically believe that means. As far as I am concerned, if a person lives here, under the same horrific stupidity we call a parliament as I do, then they and I are family, until that individual proves otherwise.

In all my years of adulthood, it is not those who have come from distant lands to be here, who have most often proven their lack of family values.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

The pendelum will never stop for any man, if they do not choose to move when it comes, it will crush them. Those who has nothing, moves with the pendelum, those who have more than they should, tries to stop it.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: edward777

it sounds like the goal of the "New" world order is to "forget your homelands ancient history" and get on board with all the other 'advanced' countries and be good planetary citizens and observe one Global government/military/currency

no "worshipping" of dieties, religions, money, power, etc, sounds familiar?



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
The truth is that this movement is so long in the tooth, so well rooted in the "systems" that its virtually unstoppable. The future belongs to the Intellectual Elites and their social engineering agenda and the borders will remain open, the refugees will flood in from all over the world and the NFL will slowly be replaced by "FUTBOL".

Whatever..........


Um… if the NFL is replaced by Futbol it won't be because of "a flood of refugees". Where I live it's pretty much just as popular already and it has nothing to do with "a flood of refugees".


Seattle Sounders FC vs Portland Timbers FC MLS match

As for the American flag? Psssst….. we have our own….
edit on 29-8-2015 by JadeStar because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

Your ignorance surpasses any semblance of intellectual capacity to see beyond the veil of your own cultural ideals that your so willing to fight and die for... It's kind of pathetic. Globalization has changed the way the game is played(e.g everything from Economics, Financing, to Geo-politics,Cultural influences and Sociopolitical issues and etc) to still cling to the fictional beliefs of nationalism,patriotism and other xenophobic like political philosophies will end in one of two ways.

A) Nationalism and Patriotism will take hold of citizen's values once again similar to how it was in Europe Prior to WWI, but nation-states would collapse and most of the world would be made of city-states due to the potential extremism that makes these ideologies so volatile in the hands of the fragile minded. Wars would be wide spread in local areas and combat would be a normal part of life. Those who attempt to peacefully or coercively unite the city states would be met with serious resistances, demonized as a fascist,communist or whatever derogatory political scapegoat of the time and any supporters of these ideals will have been imprisoned or executed.

Or B) As you said TPTB will continue to erode the culturally historic monuments of every nation in the world (Flags and other cultural symbols regarding a nation-states heritage will be consider offensive regardless of the historic contextual meaning) and eventually people of the world will become accustomed to a border-less, multicultural planet, instituting a global government wouldn't have much resistance. At this point in time they would have no problem removing political dissidents like you..

Not to derail the OPs topic, I seriously see nothing wrong with a global government (with the exception of course that the power would be held by the elitist) last time I checked we all live on planet Earth and as we mature as a species we will eventually unite as one on this planet or devolve into squabbling children fighting over toys as the sandbox slowly wears away at our feet..So yes we as a 'Global Citizen's' do have global responsibilities to maintain this planet and the many other organisms that house her.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: NateTheAnimator

A yes, everything you said,



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: edward777

Im a Swede, and we know we are a social experiment before they try it on the rest of the world. We accept the sociological experiments, cause it leaves us alone. We dont have to play with your weird ideals of most about anything, we dont have choose any of the religious dogmas, yet we are one of the most religious people in the world, its just not your religion. A culture makes a border nothing else, definition of linguistics and cultural ideals, if you dont have one are bilingual, your borders are open. Your nation is only 400 years old, our deep rooted pagan culture is many thousands of years old. We dont believe in democracy, we never had. We vote cause of obligation. If you cant adjust to reality, then im sorry, we see your bubble or cube. Dont think we dont know how you act or think. We just think you are, how to put this in a nice way, very, very, very non intelligent. You know over half the population already knows the agenda, why do you think we vote no to everything? And open the borders, this game isnt ours. We dont care, its your fantasy, we live in the real world. Im sorry but you dont.


Can I move to Sweden? Americans really are dumb.... and very rude.



posted on Aug, 30 2015 @ 01:01 AM
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At one point in modern history, the idea of science based or technocratic government was thought of as a generally good idea and a normal progression of mankind. It was an ideal that went away pretty quickly, and now it seems like a given that there isn't going to be a future where "science men" advise and consult on the world's affairs.

Only the spectre of alien intervention has the same flavor of a classic techno - logic solution to Earth's basic problems. Otherwise, we're left to the politicians and corporations to decide our future.
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posted on Aug, 30 2015 @ 02:07 AM
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by western heritage do you mean: conquest, plunder, pillage, colonialism, slavery and genocide (of natives)?

in my opinion, your problem is simple: karma




posted on Aug, 30 2015 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: donhuangenaro
by western heritage do you mean: conquest, plunder, pillage, colonialism, slavery and genocide (of natives)?

in my opinion, your problem is simple: karma



what part of the world are you from?
ohhh, trick question.



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