NASA Says Three Feet of Sea Level Rise Is Unavoidable

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Its a theory that needs further investigation but at least one university suggest that its tainted from lack of temperature records from southern hemisphere. But antarctica ice cores do show a mid holocene warming and a subsequent cooling since 3–4 kyr BP for both Antarctic Peninsula's. link. Its also interesting that last years Antarctica's ice extent was largest on record which supports research that have found the oceans cooling not warming.

So if it's unavoidable they have a few options:

1) Prepare
2) Deal with it

If no amount of carbon credits will stop it, don't start using them. Use the money for other pursuits instead of corrupt government redistribution.

The sea level rises and falls over time. The history of mankind is the story of adapting to nature through technology, not pulling ourselves backwards.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
So if it's unavoidable they have a few options:

1) Prepare
2) Deal with it

If no amount of carbon credits will stop it, don't start using them. Use the money for other pursuits instead of corrupt government redistribution.

The sea level rises and falls over time. The history of mankind is the story of adapting to nature through technology, not pulling ourselves backwards.

Exactly and is the carbon tax revenue going to go to places at or below sea level to build up the beaches and other preparation? Likely not.

they always say CO2 is doing it.
but what about All the heat we make all of the time?
ok that could not make globle warming as its just heat ! um?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

3 ft is just the start. It won't stop there. So yes, it's important to do something now.

a reply to: glend

Interesting theory indeed. Agreed, let's put the past aside for a brief moment and talk about facts then.

Its also interesting that last years Antarctica's ice extent was largest on record

Yes, no. No. Depends.

Antarctica is losing ice mass while gaining ice extent. This is a confusing point to some. There are a few keys that can help us understand what this means in the context of global warming.

Land ice is different than sea ice. Antarctica is losing ice as illustrated below in the ice mass chart from the GRACE satellite.

ossfoundation.us...

And yes, the deepest oceans may be cooling. Heck, they don't know why exactly the ice keeps melting at all.

The Larsen C Ice Shelf—whose neighbours Larsen A and B, collapsed in 1995 and 2002—is thinning from both its surface and beneath. For years scientists were unable to determine whether it is warming air temperatures or warmer ocean currents that is causing the Antarctic Peninsula's floating ice shelves to lose volume and become more vulnerable to collapse. This new study takes an important step forward in assessing Antarctica's likely contribution to future sea-level rise.
The research team combined satellite data and eight radar surveys captured during a 15-year period from 1998-2012. They found that Larsen C Ice Shelf lost an average of 4 metres of ice, and had lowered by an average of one metre at the surface.

phys.org...

But there is more, just look at the Arctic.

No one knows when we’ll have the first ice-free Arctic summer—extrapolating into the future can be difficult—but one thing we can bet on is that it’ll be a lot sooner than the year 2100 as originally predicted just a few years ago. It could be in as little as 30 years.

www.slate.com...

So yes, could be coming sooner than later. Who knows...

a reply to: lostbook

Definitely important for us as an intelligent species to prepare for...

a reply to: greencmp

Utterly refuted even though it's been confirmed by thousands of scientists...

Or are they all paid off by the evil socialists?!

You're so misinformed it's embarrassing. Log off.

originally posted by: Kali74
3 ft is just the start. It won't stop there. So yes, it's important to do something now.

The hubris is takes to postulate that we can somehow maintain static ocean levels is mind-blowingly stupefying.

originally posted by: alienmma
a reply to: greencmp

Utterly refuted even though it's been confirmed by thousands of scientists...

Or are they all paid off by the evil socialists?!

You're so misinformed it's embarrassing. Log off.

And what about the thousands of scientists who are not convinced? Are they all paid off by evil oil?

I'd suggest you log off too, but that does not foster open debate.

www.petitionproject.org...
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

I like those backwards minded petitions and stuff. Funny though.
Big oil might be as big in this as you guessed.

So you folks don't believe in global warming?

*sigh*

But you do believe in all that plastic in the ocean, do you?
What was their point again?
We have no impact on the environment whatsoever? Aha.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

The only scientific opinions that I care about that are worth paying attention to are those that have a scientific background in climate research.

The signees from the petition project isn't impressive.
"The current list of 31,487 petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,715 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science."[


I don't really care what a medical doctor or an herbalist thinks about climate change.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
I don't really care what a medical doctor or an herbalist thinks about climate change.

Wait, you can get a Doctoral Degree in Herbalism?

What do you write your thesis on, the distinguishing characteristics between Sinsemilla and Maui Wowie?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Some of the signatures in the second one are from some of the same people who push homeopathy.


I have seen the lists before of the signees. Some are scientists but claiming they all are is a stretch.

a reply to: hutch622

I quoted nasa statistics given this year. So facts fit my agenda not fear mongering and ignorance.


"The data gathered reveals that sea levels have already risen nearly 3 inches since 1992. "

That's 3.1mm a year

a reply to: avgguy

The question was , where in the OPs link .

originally posted by: Imagewerx

originally posted by: charolais
Maybe they are trying to get in the spotlight for more funding

I'm not expert but I think that a rise of 3 feet is a sh!tload of water and I'm not sure how to arctic/antarctic ice would do that much.

The Arctic wouldn't make any difference if it melted as it's just floating ice that displaces roughly the same amount of water it contains (in fact it's been said by some scientists the sea level might drop by a few centimetres if just the Arctic melted).Roughly 80% of the worlds ice is in the Antarctic (up to 3 miles thickness of ice on top of rock) and Greenland,they estimate a global sea level rise of up to 200 feet if all that lot melted.

Thanks for the Ice statistics

The rise is due to thermal expansion. Everything grows in volume about 1/10000 inch per degree Fahrenheit. The Ocean has a lot of cubic inches.

We are in an Ice Age. The Earth has a normal state where there are no glaciers at all. At the equator the temperature reaches 150 F. The plants look like an alien planet from a 1960's Star Trek show.

The climate will change. It always has.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: lostbook
Can you or anyone provide the actual NASA link to the claim?

This maybe be a hype story and in 10 years when we only have less than a foot, I can foresee a lot of the naysayers use stories like this as 'proof' man made climate change is bogus.

NASA never said such a thing, as 3 ft in 10 years is downright preposterous.

It appears this was shoddy journalism and the article in the OP has now been corrected, but you're right - this is a perfect example of how actual scientific facts get spun by media and other sensationalists, and then we get to here how stupid and wrong the scientists apparently are because we're supposed to be in a 1970s ice age/underwater by now.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Teikiatsu

The only scientific opinions that I care about that are worth paying attention to are those that have a scientific background in climate research.

The signees from the petition project isn't impressive.
"The current list of 31,487 petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,715 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science."[


I don't really care what a medical doctor or an herbalist thinks about climate change.

Not only that, but many of the names on the list are outright fake and made up:

Jokers Add Fake Names To Warming Petition

That petition is not vetted or fact-checked at all. It has zero credibility. Anyone who wants to can just claim they have a PhD from Hogwart's and bam they're officially a scientist who disagrees with the consensus on climate change.

a reply to: mc_squared

ATSucation at it's finest, but the headline is actually pretty spon on.

You know... now some people say we might see an arctic sommer in 30 years, which would've been considered outright impossible 10 years ago. I dunno, reading that glass ball is not that precise as it seems.