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Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV) 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Boadicea
Regardless of your position, you have a a terrific thread going with your measured responses to any and all worthy of a response.
Because it needs to be fought.
It is the cancer of humanity.
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
For me, when I do it at least, is a mixture of two things. Mostly hopes to get those of faith to consider things from a different perspective.
Anything I can do to plant seeds of doubt that may grow into a more critical look at beliefs is a plus.
Then there is that part of me that likes to rock the boat and there is some guilty pleasure in knowing how some people on here must view me as the enemy, in a manner of speaking.
Anyway, the problem with rabid Atheists, who live to spam forums with their particular brand of nonsense, is the same as it is with rabid Statists (and they are more often than not one and the same, as many have simply substituted the state for a god)--acute sociopathy. They simply cannot stand the fact that other people believe and do different things than they, the indisputably more learned (obviously), do.
Egotism run amok, the hypocrisy of the so-called "tolerant" writ large. But they don't care. They'll just gang up on you and shout you down until you shut up, regardless of whether it actually makes sense or is even on-topic. Argumentation by intimidation. Childish. Nonsense.
originally posted by: mymymy
I would say most people do it about Christianity because every single "Christian" I have ever met or talked to are hypocrites or extremely judgmental.
Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV) 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
originally posted by: rossacus
The way I normally put it is if you see someone walking the wrong direction towards their intended destination, do you not want to help them? Would they appreciate your intervention for helping them get there quicker.
When you see some people's warped perceptions of history and life I genuinely want to help them. Sod the deny ignorance crap, I want to help. If you don't they spread their thoughts onto the next generation, another generation wasted that won't embrace the progression of the human race, through scientific advancement.
I admire the power of religion, but hate it and it's affects on humans that would be recognised as intelligent if it wasn't for their exposure to a book that warps their conclusions that limits critical thinking and open mindless.
Gist of the response, want to help. If you can get 1 person to reevaluate their life and religious beliefs, job done. I think alot of people on ATS who were indoctrinated at a young age are eternally grateful for such threads as it has released them from the shackles that is religion.
Please do not interject into deeper religious topics the question of the reality of a higher being? Unless stated in the topic, we are assuming in this forum that we've moved on past that point. Imagine discussing algebra while someone keeps interjecting that they still don’t believe in addition. The very reason that classes such as these have prerequisites is so new ground can be covered in the subject.
Don’t forget that there are several other forums that deal heavily with religion were the existence of a God isn’t taken for granted. Conspiracies in Religion constantly deals with the issue of religion being simply a fictitious control mechanism for manipulating the masses (Sheeple to some). Origins & Creationism Conspiracy is a fantastic forum for debating evolution vs. intelligent design. These two forms regularly deal with most of issues that usually distract from deeper topics in this forum. These two forms regularly deal with most of issues that usually distract from deeper topics in this forum.