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New Study of JFK Autopsy Reveals FALISIFICATION OF X-RAY

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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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This from a Natural News article released today. I did a search and found other threads discussing this theory of a falsified autopsy but this is a new article and new information I did not see in those threads.

A Dr. David Mantik recently published a paper in Medical Research Archives, which is "an international scientific peer-reviewed journal":

He claims the bullet fragment visible in JFK's autopsy is a result of a double-exposure and tampering done after the actual autopsy was performed. This could be huge!



The X-ray fabrication was the topic of a 2015 paper by Dr. David Mantik published in issue three of Medical Research Archives, an international scientific peer-reviewed journal publishing articles in all disciplines of medicine, with a focus on new research.


The article goes into detail about what went on during the investigation and subsequent "conclusion" that Oswald was responsible, and an official panel confirmed this original conclusion.



A bullet fragment depicted in an autopsy X-ray used to implicate Lee Harvey Oswald in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy recently has been found to be a faked artifact superimposed on the X-ray sometime after JFK's autopsy.





Larry Sturdivan, a ballistics consultant to the House Select Commission on Assassinations (HSCA), created by Congress in 1976 in the midst of continuing controversy over Kennedy's death, studied this fragment and concluded the object could not be metal and that he had never seen the cross-section of a bullet deposited in such an odd fashion on a skull X-ray.


Well no wonder no one had seen anything like this before - it was an "anomaly" because it was added in after the fact and wasn't actually an object in the original X-ray.




"I'm not sure just what that 6.5 mm fragment is," reported Sturdivan. "One thing I'm sure it is NOT is a cross-section from the interior of a bullet. I have seen literally thousands of bullets, deformed and un-deformed, after penetrating tissue and tissue simulants. Some were bent, some torn in two or more pieces, but to have a cross-section sheared out is physically impossible. That fragment has a lot of mystery associated with it." Mystery indeed, as the HSCA had relied on the authenticity of this fragment as key evidence in connecting the 6.5 mm bullet piece to Lee Harvey Oswald. Furthermore, the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB), formed by Congress in 1994 to study all government documents relating to the assassination, the three JFK autopsy doctors testified under oath that they had never seen such a fragment during the autopsy.


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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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That "journal" doesn't look to reputable from what I gather...




The publisher has seven, broad-scope journals in its portfolio. It uses the free Open Journals Systems as its publishing platform, and its website is spare and plain. It looks like they used all the default settings.

The publisher gives this as its address:

340 S Lemon Ave #7750
Walnut CA 91789 USA

… but this is a mail forwarding service company’s address. It’s really based somewhere in the 612 area code, that is, Minneapolis, Minnesota.

...

I recommend that researchers avoid Knowledge Enterprises Journals.

Appendix: List of Knowledge Enterprises Journals as of 2015-03-25:

Astronomical Review
Biomedical Engineering Review
International Biology Review
International Chemistry Review
Journal of Economics and Banking
Medical Research Archives
Quarterly Physics Review

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Just like there are good, quality brands and knock offs -- the same thing exists in the scientific world. There are reputable journals, and they have this reputation for a reason. If you get your work published in one, you don't need to qualify your research with "it's in a peer-reviewed journal" -- as anyone worth their salt would recognize a respected journal.
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:22 PM
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Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Yep. Several sources list it as being a predatory journal.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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That is some fine conspiracymanship sir,
1) dubious source( Natural News)check
2) JFK check
3) tampered evidence and suggested government involvement check
4) rockerfeller/rothchild connection? Lets just wait..



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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Fair enough, not everyone is well versed in the finer nuances of fact checking. I get that.

However, here's a tip I find useful when dealing with internet sources. If the "Startling New Revelation!" appears to instantly contradict all modern thinking and isn't on the landing page of any of my regular news sources but rather is published on a site I am not familiar with the first thing I do is look at the other articles on that site.

If the other articles on the site inform me of things such as "Nibiru - Planet X clues to be found in writings of Dr Seuss" or "David Icke - lizard people invented sewing machines" or... I don't know.... "Werewolves ate my platoon" then I tend to treat that source a little suspiciously.

In this case, a quick look at the other articles on Natural News tells me that I should probably treat this as less than gospel.
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posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well hey, you learn something new every day. Make a "peer-reviewed scientific journal" with a legit-sounding name and you can claim all sorts of fantastic things to get the attention of unsuspecting folks.

This is another Sorcha Faal epiphany for me - I was unaware of Sorcha Faal until I posted something here on ATS and got laughed at.

Well thanks everyone for being civil and nice about it, I will know better next time




posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: highfromphoenix
Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?


It would have huge implications - based on things that were happening at the time of his assassination it could shed light on any number of important people/organizations/movements that had the power to actually take out a standing U.S. President, in broad daylight, virtually making him an example for any of the opponents.

Perhaps some could care less but I'd absolutely love to know if there was a conspiracy behind it. That's why I was sucked into this one in the first place



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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Mods please close this thread to save me my dignity



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

No big deal, who knows -- there might be a few nuggets worth looking into, you may find yourself down a new rabbit hole!

Even with dubious sources, once in a while I'll still find a nugget here or there that'll lead my research to more reputable sources. The trick is keeping track of all the bread crumbs...

One thing that ATS members are good at is separating the wheat from the chaff. Some members have been here a LONG time and have "seen it all" -- so if you ever want to verify something, chances are there will be a member here that can dig around and find out for you!

For example, the recent GCMAF stuff curing cancer. At first it seemed to good to be true, then it seemed dubious, then It got me researching all kinds of things I never knew existed!



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore

originally posted by: highfromphoenix
Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?


It would have huge implications - based on things that were happening at the time of his assassination it could shed light on any number of important people/organizations/movements that had the power to actually take out a standing U.S. President, in broad daylight, virtually making him an example for any of the opponents.

Perhaps some could care less but I'd absolutely love to know if there was a conspiracy behind it. That's why I was sucked into this one in the first place


Okay.

Whatever. JFK wasn't that great. He is an idea you people have created.

You must understand JFK was as much a crook and a liar as every other president.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Well hey, you learn something new every day. Make a "peer-reviewed scientific journal" with a legit-sounding name and you can claim all sorts of fantastic things to get the attention of unsuspecting folks.

This is another Sorcha Faal epiphany for me - I was unaware of Sorcha Faal until I posted something here on ATS and got laughed at.

Well thanks everyone for being civil and nice about it, I will know better next time


Don't worry about it. Everybody's got to learn somewhere. Whenever you come across far-fetched or dubious claims that cite research published in some journal, just do a quick search of that journal's name. Usually you can determine pretty quickly if it's a legitimate, reputable scientific journal, or if it's a predatory journal that will publish anything you send them, as long as it's accompanied by a check.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: FamCore

No big deal, who knows -- there might be a few nuggets worth looking into, you may find yourself down a new rabbit hole!

Even with dubious sources, once in a while I'll still find a nugget here or there that'll lead my research to more reputable sources. The trick is keeping track of all the bread crumbs...

One thing that ATS members are good at is separating the wheat from the chaff. Some members have been here a LONG time and have "seen it all" -- so if you ever want to verify something, chances are there will be a member here that can dig around and find out for you!

For example, the recent GCMAF stuff curing cancer. At first it seemed to good to be true, then it seemed dubious, then It got me researching all kinds of things I never knew existed!


Well Dr Mantik has been on this for some time before any kind of publish, even made a correction since a 2009 documentary I think it was. So it's really all about the X-ray isn't it?
Is the X-ray seen here in fact an original artefact, or a much LATER fabrication from the original. What sticks in my mind is that, surely there is at least some, perhaps secret archived , and at the time of the event, copies of 'the original' somewhere even if 'the original' was destroyed.
Certainly the picture we see is overexposed, that cuts no ice on the internet. On the other hand I see nothing thus far to say Dr Mantik is a bit dodgy which is more of a, 'needs to be' rather than just mistaken, since he is in possession of the X-ray, whatever it looks like.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: highfromphoenix

I honestly believe JFK was a different species in terms of being a President. Have you studied his story? He did great things for this country in the military before he was ever in public office. He saved the lives of a bunch of men even though he had medical issues and injuries and earned accolades for his heroism. Cuban Missile Crisis he really did a huge thing, and is probably the reason that day wasn't a huge tragedy. Everyone else wanted to press the button but he stopped it. He stood for a lot of good in the world and yes, I'm sure he played the politics to help out certain contributors and people who would support his candidacy but overall he had a good morale character and did great things in his time. He pissed some people off in the process, it was likely Giancana who had him killed because of him targeting mobs or pissing off bankers who hired the mobb to off him. That part is speculation but the puzzle pieces point to Giancana as a likely shot-caller in this instance. RIP to JFK and his bro Bobby.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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I'm surprised the bullet wasn't just sketched in by hand.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 02:15 AM
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originally posted by: highfromphoenix

originally posted by: FamCore

originally posted by: highfromphoenix
Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?


It would have huge implications - based on things that were happening at the time of his assassination it could shed light on any number of important people/organizations/movements that had the power to actually take out a standing U.S. President, in broad daylight, virtually making him an example for any of the opponents.

Perhaps some could care less but I'd absolutely love to know if there was a conspiracy behind it. That's why I was sucked into this one in the first place


Okay.

Whatever. JFK wasn't that great. He is an idea you people have created.

You must understand JFK was as much a crook and a liar as every other president.



You are very ignorant then.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 02:28 AM
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originally posted by: highfromphoenix
Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?


It's one of MANY conspiracies, that need to be exposed. For the sheer purpose of exposing the people for the being the idiotic sheeple they really are. We can't bring the ones responsible to justice, but we can make the people aware of how stupid they are, and the fact that no matter wether they are American or Danish, they fall for every Hitler out there, constantly.

And soon ... they'll elect, yet another.


originally posted by MysikMushroom

Yep. Several sources list it as being a predatory journal.


Yet another "aristocrat", that decides it's the quality of the paper, that decides the quality of the content.



posted on Oct, 14 2015 @ 06:28 AM
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Former head of the CIA just implicated Dulles. Don't see a thread on that.



posted on Oct, 23 2015 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: highfromphoenix
Even if the JFK assassination was a huge conspiracy what exactly would be gained today by exposing the conspiracy?
it would discredit paid trolls like you for one thing



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