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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: woodwardjnr
Oh yeah, definitely. Before I realised there was such a thing as media bias (I was around 16-17), the Daily Mail used to make me so angry with it's "stories" as I assumed they must be true, they were in the paper!
Nowadays, I will look at a headline and use that as a starting off point for my own leg work, always aware of the various outlets bias, from the Daily Mail hating on everything and anything through to the Mirror with it's thinly veiled socialist slant. There has been many an occasion I've seen a headline, thought "Oooh, that would be a good thread" only to find after my own research on the claims that, actually, they've totally misrepresented it and it is nothing like it is being portrayed.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Cobaltic1978
Its brutal.. Lets not forget the hundreds of families being cleared out of london each week becuase of the bedroom tax. Its a form of landclearence and noone buts an eyelid..
originally posted by: babybunnies
A sad statistic, but there are many, many abusers of the system who are definitely fit to work.
originally posted by: PaddyInf
a reply to: Taggart
The figure you quote does not take into account the number of people who are fit to work but claim otherwise.
50-60% (depending on the year) of those who initially try to claim ESA are found fit for work. Of those left about half are found fit for work related activity and the other half are not fit for any type of work. Many of the support group list are made up of people who do not meet the criteria for support group, but are regarded as being at physical or mental risk.
The numbers of people reporting self harm or suicidal intention has increased massively since it started to be taken into account. Prior to this virtually everyone denied this as it had no bearing in their outcome.
My other half tells me that most of those who she assesses in a week with diagnosis of depressive illness report that they have tried killing themselves in the past. Many of these have no medical record of this though, and state that their GP is not aware of this because they don't like talking about it, but they are quick enough to mention it when seeking benefits. If the quantity reporting this to the DWP were accurate the number deaths from suicide in the UK would be astronomical and would challenge cancer in terms of mortality rates.
Greg Wood decided that he could no longer tolerate working for the fitness-for-work assessment firm Atos earlier this year when he was asked, for perhaps the 10th time, to change a report he had made on a claimant, in this case making it unlikely that the individual would be eligible for sickness benefit.
Mum-of-one Joyce, from Mosspark, Glasgow, said Atos decision makers paid no attention to her professional clinical opinion and were only interested in cutting down the number of claimants.
Blunders include ruling that a 39-year-old woman from Livingstone with a brain tumour was fit to work just weeks before she died and a double heart and lung transplant patient from Essex dying nine days after being declared well enough for employment.
Ask Atos, the company responsible for executing the work capability assessment (WCA), or the Department for Work and Pensions, which defines how the WCA is conducted, and they will tell you that they have no targets for the number of people who pass. Yet a new report from the Centre for Welfare Reform, How Norms Become Targets, uses a leaked set of Atos data to suggest that the DWP is holding Atos to extremely tight tolerances on its results.
originally posted by: Scouse100
With regard to reporting attempted suicide I can totally understand why this might happen as I have seen it first hand. I have a family member who is very ill and kept getting fobbed off by the GP. She was too embarrassed to tell the GP that she felt so awful she felt like ending it all, I had to tell the GP in the end just so she would be taken seriously (nothing to do with claiming benefits, just getting help). So yes if someones life depends on it as in their ability to buy food, power etc... then I could totally see why they might mention it.