a reply to: ObsidianEclipse
That's a very biased and simple view of a very complex period in British history.
If we actually look at what happened honestly, we find that those industries were dying out, coal mining was being subsidized by the government
because it was a failing business. When an industry ends because the core of that industry dies out, other things come to replace it. In the case of
the industries you list, it can possibly be argued that nothing was done to replace those industries, but the same thing happens around the world to
different communities every year, and most of the time that community recovers quickly and replaces the lost business with something else.
My family moved out of London in the 80's, because the career my father was in was collapsing. He saw this coming, and he did what he needed to do for
his family. He moved us out of the city and started a new job, the industry he was in shrank dramatically a few years later and has been doing that
I also don't buy the whole "woe is me" excuse. These young people know little about what happened in the 70's and 80's to the industries that used to
employ so many, and I'm not buying the notion that they're lazy for "good reason".
I, too, have had personal experience of employing young Brits and foreign staff, and I know from my own experience that the average 20-something Brit
was pretty unreliable when compared to the Polish staff we had. In five years of managing more than 50 staff, I could be guaranteed that if someone
didn't show up for work on a Saturday or Sunday morning it would be one of the few British staff in their 20's, and that I could call up one of the
few Polish staff in their 20's to come in immediately for the overtime.
I used to work with people in that company who were xenophobic and not at all pleasant about those Polish workers, but even they could not deny that
the young British employees were generally hungover, lazy, messy, constantly late if they showed up at all, and all while the Polish workers did
everything they could to impress and work hard.
It was the same for the clients they worked with too. There were problems in the beginning with language, but even with that we would have clients
requesting those Polish workers back rather than another arrogant, lazy, mouthy young Brit who clearly didn't want to be there and had no interest in
actually doing their job.
We used to get the same complaints about the young British staff every day... they were late, they weren't in uniform, they were clearly hung over and
looked a mess, they stank of weed, they spend all their time on their phone, they missed various aspects of their jobs completely, they were rude to
staff, they ignored staff entirely, they couldn't be found in the building, they left early without telling anyone...
Not everyone was like that of course. We had a lot of great, hard working, professional British staff working for us from all backgrounds and all
ages, but we got to a point where most of the young British people coming in for an interview wouldn't even get past the door. It was obvious most of
the time that the interview they came to was just for show, to get the Job Center off their back. The job was there if they wanted it, but they would
turn up in shorts and a t-shirt and basically do whatever they could to make sure they were not employed.
Of course, most of the people who applied never even got an interview, because they'd send in their application filled with "txt spk".
I'm sorry to say it, but the majority of the employment problems in this country right now have nothing to do with the 70's and 80's, and everything
to do with a generation of young people who think every job is beneath them and lack even the most basic skills in language, but it's okay because one
day they'll become a reality TV star!
You also have a generation of parents who seem entirely unwilling to light any fires under the butts of their offspring, Jeremy Kyle parents who would
rather spend their time getting wasted at the weekends and watching Reality TV than actually being parents. This might also be why those young people
can't form a paragraph without confusing "you're" and "your", or even replacing "too" with "2"!
When I started work I was earning £2.50 an hour. I worked 12 hour shifts in a warehouse with holes in the roof slightly bigger than the holes in my
shoes. Now I'm running my own business in my 30's. I'm not special, I was a lazy teenager too, but my parents didn't give me the opportunity to sit on
my lazy behind and do nothing, they would have physically marched me to work if they'd had to.
For me it seems to be about responsibility for oneself and the complete lack of it many young Brits have, along with bad parenting by people more
interested in their own lives than the futures of their own kids. The jobs are there if they want them, clearly. The problem is that they all think
it's beneath them.
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