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Jesse Ventura Shares Surprising Poll Results: Would You Elect An Atheist As President?

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posted on Sep, 2 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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What's sad is that it should be surprising at all that most would be willing to elect an atheist at all. This should be primarily a non issue.




posted on Sep, 3 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Anonysmith
Being an atheist or following a religion really makes no difference, does it? Too many people in the world are acting as though religion somehow makes you a better person, at the same time, many people also think that atheism makes you a better person. The reality is that we are all just human and we are all susceptible to the same influences. A persons religious disposition means nothing when it comes to corruption as every man has his price.

That being said, it's hard to choose a good candidate since the choice always comes down to the lesser of two evils, or in the case of this elections, 20-some-odd evils. In the end it doesn't matter, the government is corrupt. You can elect someone who isn't corrupt, but the system will corrupt them. No man can have power without falling victim to corruption, it's the way life has been since humans first picked up sticks.



That's a pretty accurate statement. Most of our elected officials are all devout religious people, and they sure are corrupt, aren't they? Maybe we should try electing an atheist and see if they're as corrupt as the religious people.



posted on Sep, 3 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Having an atheist in the White House would be like finally having an adult to watch over the play ground.


The one thing it would do- if you're an atheist, you're not going to bring your religious convictions into the job. You're going to govern, and religion is going to have nothing to do with it.



posted on Sep, 3 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
I'm fairly certain we've already elected more than a few Presidents who were atheists who feigned religious belief to remain electable.


You’d have to fake it. I've always considered it wrong, but right now I'm considering how I would fake it if I ran for president.



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Anonysmith
Being an atheist or following a religion really makes no difference, does it? Too many people in the world are acting as though religion somehow makes you a better person, at the same time, many people also think that atheism makes you a better person. The reality is that we are all just human and we are all susceptible to the same influences. A persons religious disposition means nothing when it comes to corruption as every man has his price.

That being said, it's hard to choose a good candidate since the choice always comes down to the lesser of two evils, or in the case of this elections, 20-some-odd evils. In the end it doesn't matter, the government is corrupt. You can elect someone who isn't corrupt, but the system will corrupt them. No man can have power without falling victim to corruption, it's the way life has been since humans first picked up sticks.


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posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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Elect an atheist?

Why not we’ve been electing hypocrites at every election so why not an atheist who at least won't be a hypocrite and claim to love and believe in God yet commit the worst crimes of mass murder imaginable as most of our “Christian” presidents have all done.


Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, both Bush’s, Clinton, Obama, all responsible, particularly Truman, Johnson, and Nixon and the dog of hell Bush, for untold crimes against humanity while claiming to be so God dam religious



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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An Atheist has no governor, no universal reason to do things with a code of morals. The human heart still contains some internal references to doing right and wrong, but no judge, no jury, and only their own set of values which are always colored by every single persons beliefs and values.

An Atheist will ALWAYS color their decisions based on that. There is no standardization with Atheists,, no way to know what they might do in any situation.

Even leaders who claim to believe in God, or are claiming they are Christian like our current leader who openly mocks God, but lies to everyone gullible enough to listen to every lie he speaks, will do things in an Atheist fashion. They don't believe there is a God watching and never forgetting all they say and do, so their actions will reflect that.

No final accountability means a very big risk in electing an Atheist which we already have in office, and this can be seen (but totally denied) by those with their heads buried firmly in their leaders manure pile.

Atheist governments throughout history always abuse the people of their countries with the most blatant acts of cruelty, and, or abuses of power, usually narcissists and sociopaths and chronic pathological liars will congregate to positions of power to feed their lack of self esteem and they will abscond and take over every facet of their field of influence to make themselves inflated and appearing much more powerful than anyone saw them..

NK leader is God status to his people. And a very cruel and sick, twisted piece of toilet debris is what he really is.
Leaders In China's communist party and in the older USSR were Atheist and were very cruel and killed millions upon millions of people who did nothing to them.

Obama already has established himself as pretty much not a God fearing Christian, which is easily proven by his actions and even his words, which very rarely contain any truth to them. This is an Atheist President who never gives a second thought to taking all he wants and giving nothing but fake promises and lies back to his own supporters as payment.

We already have an Atheist as a president. Does he believe in God? Anything is possible, but does he follow God? Is God his Governor to which he considers every word and action as a measure against what he does?

No. He doesn't. And those who do not, will not think twice about using you as a pawn in whatever plans they have, because they don't think there is a creator that cares and is carefully watching them to see what we all do with ourselves here.
The deniers will throw a big fit, but everyone including them know this is the truth.



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: JesseVentura

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Having an atheist in the White House would be like finally having an adult to watch over the play ground.


The one thing it would do- if you're an atheist, you're not going to bring your religious convictions into the job. You're going to govern, and religion is going to have nothing to do with it.


Hi Jesse,

I think it is important to add that the lack of religion will have something to do with it, when an Atheist is leader anywhere. That lack of an Omnipotent God will color an Atheists decisions and those decisions will not always take into account the welfare of the people, and usually their liberties as well.

I'm not saying someone who is religious and president should be pushing religion on anyone, and it is not in their job duties anyways, leave that to priests and preachers of course. But a religious president would likely not use drones to cause the death of babies and women overseas like Obama brags about doing. If they did, they would never stop thinking about it, and would worry about themselves constantly. An Atheist might not have any guilt at all over doing things like that, just for political expedience.

Notice how the Obama campaign tried and used everything they could muster to show Obama as a Christian man, just to get him elected, they were thinking America might reject him otherwise because most (now maybe not since we have seen what Obama, a claimed Christian has done and is doing.) Americans trust a Christian president in our history, thinking they will measure what they do with regard to doing things in a moral and ethical way, being accountable and not self serving.like all Atheists throughout history have done.



posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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I don't know. I'm not so sure being an atheist or not being associated with religion is the best thing for us. We have to be careful about thinking that way. There's no silver bullet, generally. Things have to be worked out and it's hard to do that. People don't always naturally want to work together because there're a lot of hangups inbetween them, not just their religious beliefs. It's not a simple ordered peaceful world and I don't think it'd be that way without religion. Isn't it common knowledge in most religions humans are flawed? That's what matters. We're flawed, religion or no religion. And I think most people agree we're flawed, even atheists.

But Jesse looks and sounds real good in that video. I mostly agree with his message, although I'm not sure if he understood atheists can force their (lack of) belief on others just like religious people can do. I think this is where the danger lies, not religion or lack thereof.

I truly think what makes a great leader is being able to work with people of all faiths (or lack of) and all backgrounds. I also think this is the hardest to do, since I think evolutionarily we tend to be tied to specific groups. So leaders tend to be tied to certain peoples, not all peoples.

And it's not just how we get along with each other. What if someday we meet aliens? If our leaders are inordinately prejudiced in our favor then peace with ET nations will be hard to forge and war more likely.

I do think leaders need to be prejudiced somewhat. They're there to represent us. We're not a collective anyway. If evolution really wanted us to be blind to borders then we'd never act with our kin in mind. What's kin in a borderless universe? Everything is your kin. All is your family. Now, does that make any sense? Evolution doesn't think so.
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posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 01:14 AM
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I can't argue with that. Keep god out of government, because he's irrelevant anyway to government.


originally posted by: Willtell
Elect an atheist?

Why not we’ve been electing hypocrites at every election so why not an atheist who at least won't be a hypocrite and claim to love and believe in God yet commit the worst crimes of mass murder imaginable as most of our “Christian” presidents have all done.


Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, both Bush’s, Clinton, Obama, all responsible, particularly Truman, Johnson, and Nixon and the dog of hell Bush, for untold crimes against humanity while claiming to be so God dam religious



posted on Sep, 10 2015 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: JesseVentura

Next poll Jesse... figure out why so many people are so comfortable sticking themselves in little boxes with labels. Better said, figure out why so many human beings willingly accept their social engineering and indoctrination.

Most of you people wouldn't know a good candidate if they were standing in front of you. You are too wrapped up in picking your favorite sports team, then favorite player, and cheering like a rabid fan to the point of foolishly calling all the other players and teams idiots. Indoctrinated much?



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