As trial opens, F. Glenn Miller Jr. puts himself at scene of Jewish center shootings

Testimony began Monday in Olathe in the capital murder trial of F. Glenn Miller Jr., in the fatal shootings of three people on April 13, 2014, outside the Jewish Community Center and the Village Shalom retirement community in Overland Park. Chief Deputy District Attorney Chris McMullin (standing at the podium) gave his opening statements while Miller, who is acting as his own attorney, sat in a wheelchair.

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As trial opens, F. Glenn Miller Jr. puts himself at scene of Jewish center shootings

Okay, this SHOOTING happened last year. A Neo-Nazi called "Frazier Glenn Miller" or "Frazier Glenn Cross" went to a Jewish Community Center and killed three people. Daytime. Shot them. They weren't even Jewish.

Today, some nutcase killed 2 people (and himself) because of ...........
whatever.

So - the 'defendant' (Miller/Cross, who is defending himself in this trial) says that he is going to show the jury a bunch of news clips that illustrate his frame of mind.
Here's a link to the video from the site:
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He asks them to keep an open mind, while they watch the news clips that he thinks "triggered" him.


For my part? I think we need to talk about mental health in this country. And propaganda. And how these killers are messed up by whatever popular "meme" of persecution complex is on the MSM.

This is INSANE. Enough.

James Coombes testified Monday about having numerous shots fired at him that day in the parking lot outside the community center.

“I’m glad I didn’t shoot you, by the way,” Miller said to Coombes while questioning him.

Miller also commented on the bravery of another witness, Paul Temme, who had shots fired at him and chased after the gunman in an attempt to get his car’s license plate number.

“I thought you were a brave man,” he said to Temme. “I couldn’t believe you were chasing me.”

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Madness.

Wow, defending himself with news readings is either the calculated defence of a psychopath hoping to plead insanity, or this guy truly needs mental health help...

I'm guessing that since they've allowed him to be his own appropriate adult they believe him to not be in need of MH services.

Throw away the key, either way.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

He insisted on representing himself. He had a team of lawyers and fired them all.
The judge ruled that he could do his own defense.... but has the "team" on standby.

Sometimes mental illness is violently amplified by the treatments.

That might be one thing to look at.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Plus, he's already stated that he's ready to die.
Death penalty will be sought for F. Glenn Miller Jr. in killings outside Jewish facilities

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Moments after he was ruled mentally competent to stand trial, the man accused in an Overland Park killing rampage learned that he will face a possible death sentence if convicted. Not that 74-year-old F. Glenn Miller Jr. seemed to mind. “I don’t fear the death penalty,” Miller said. “I’m already dying.”

Nuts. Just like the shooter in Virginia this morning.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Sometimes mental illness is violently amplified by the treatments.

That might be one thing to look at.

Rarely, but often enough that it's becoming a problem.

Medication is too trial and error in some cases...
CBT only works on specific minds...

It's a shame that we've only started looking into mental health a couple of decades, it's gonna cause short term problems that maybe 100 years of study rather than stigma would have ironed out.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Being ruled competent enough to stand and defend himself is pretty much game over...

Might as well strap him down now.

a reply to: xuenchen

Sometimes mental illness is violently amplified by the treatments.

Yes. And that is addressed as the client continues to check in with the doc.

But, after the doc and patient (together) assess how that particular med is working, and perhaps change it, or the doseage, as a TEAM......
it usually GOES JUST FINE.

That might be one thing to look at.

Already looked at.

I find it interesting (in a weird sort of way), that the "Reporter and Cameraman" killing stories from this morning are going viral, and lapping up viewers.

But this follow-up (in the OP), in a courtroom, to an equally (if not WORSE) outrageous act, not at all dissimilar (means: an equally insane killing) to what happened this morning, is being largely ignored.

As if it's old news.

REALLY?!!

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Representing yourself in court is pretty much a waste of time.
I doubt the judge will allow this as evidence/defence.
Obviously guilty , 1st degree , case closed...

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I am not a proponent of the death penalty. Just so you know.

What the heck did I just listen to....

Something about listening with your patriotic heart?

a reply to: radarloveguy

The judge already HAS agreed to it. This has been ongoing for months now.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Yep!
Listen with your patriotic heart.
Freal.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Seems like a waste of the court's time
(mentally competent) , just trying to split hairs
and delay the inevitable

a reply to: radarloveguy

Honestly, I don't think the guy would object to just being taken out back, blindfolded, and facing a firing squad.

This is how messed up some people are in this country, and MSM doesn't help. It makes it worse.
In My Humble Opinion

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Was waiting for the PC comment.

Loved the apology for the objection too.

This guys needs some real legal defense, but I guess it is his right to choose to defend himself.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: xuenchen


Yes. And that is addressed as the client continues to check in with the doc.

But, after the doc and patient (together) assess how that particular med is working, and perhaps change it, or the doseage, as a TEAM......
it usually GOES JUST FINE.

But what if the violence manifests before the next doc appointment?

The patient can't make the determination if the treatment is controlling the violence.

These "exceptions" could be why we see mass murders like the ones lately.

a reply to: xuenchen

Just, stop. Please.
I know the Mental Health Profession inside and out. Don't derail the thread.