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The Nukes Hoax: Have we all been lied to?

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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:16 AM
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When I was growing up in the post-communist Czechoslovakia / Czech republic in the 90's, there were a few blessed years of restructuralisation of education that allowed the teachers to NOT teach the old official communist-propaganda curriculum, but had nothing else to hold on to, so they were teaching the best they could.

One of the things I remember clearly being told over and over was that the history is written by the winners. While this was meant as an explanation of the lies that were taught before in the Communism, I was always thinking to myself "so now that we believe the West is the winner, they are manipulating the history this time?"

Anyways, fast forward 20 years later. This time Czech republic is a stabilised Western nation with interesting past, fully integrated in European union and NATO. I'm studying politics. My daily bread is WW2, nukes, proliferation treaty, cold war, US, Russia, China, all that. So I'm in it the deep end. But still this "history is written by the winners" statement is resonating in my head.

Fast forward a few more years. I become to do REAL research. First I notice the sex in disney movies. Then hollywood, illuminati, mind control, you name it. Fallen angels, I have to add this to my christian believes and realise the Bible is full of statements that support what "these consipiracy nutjobs" have been saying all along!

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Bellow is a video that uses the exact clips that we have studied at university as the evidence of nukes.


www.youtube.com...

Proponents of this theory say that while nuclear energy does exist, using it as tactical weapons doesn't work. And that the idea of having nukes has only served as a scare factor.

I leave you guys to it. Check the video, check the nuke hoax portion of the website and tell me what you think. It makes sense to me, but I'm no expert in physics, nuclear power or weapons. Thank you.
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ConnectDots have suggested this video of Galen Winson, nuclear physicist: (thank you)

edit on 26-8-2015 by P3tr4Q because: added Galen Winson video

edit on Thu Aug 27 2015 by DontTreadOnMe because: removed link Terms and Conditions




posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

You are way off. Of course they exist. Look at all the evidence, from physics and scientific reality, to instances of use, to footage of tests, even down to test witnesses getting cancer. It is all there.

It is a horrible business but this kind of denial will not make the bad go away. This is reality and it is best faced front on with a hard stare.

I am indeed telling you off for being so ignorant on this subject. Go and educate your self at once. You make a mockery of all those who have died as a result of this vile technology.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:33 AM
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I'm not a nuclear physicist or any kind of physicist for that matter, but to think these weapons don't exist is absurd. What happened to 2 Japanese cities? Did they just drop a big load of dynamite? In the Western United States, there are hundreds of craters from testing, what caused those?
No, sorry. It's not just a scare tactic, those things are all too real.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:37 AM
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guys have you even had one look at the website? have you watched the short video? have you even look at the arguments? please. i'm not saying i know it all, but in order to have a conversation, it's real important to know what the other side is basing their opinion on.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:45 AM
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"History is written the victors" is true, but in a free society it is historians and academics who write it up and not politicians, as is the case in (er) China for example. Therefore, in the liberal West the history is at least accurate, although happy to be entertained by contrary views!

As the OP. I think that you have stumbled on a gold mine of revisionism.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:49 AM
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Sorry but i also can assure you they certainly DO exist.
how do i know?
Well i used to work in a facility in which i had the opportunity
to see and touch tactical (and strategic)warheads with my bare hands.

will they ever be used probably not.
are they more of a political tool
for state willy waving yup.
do they exist oh yes.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

I wonder how 9/11 will go down in the history books



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: P3tr4Q
guys have you even had one look at the website


Yes, the author really hates the Jews! Obviously he is also into Holo­caust Revisionism!

They think "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" is a valid book.

I love this part of the website


I have doubts that NASA can get heavy payloads into a vacuum. It appears to me, from watching Apollo rocket launches, that a rocket engine works just like a propeller on an airplane; by moving lots of air. When they get into a vacuum, they fizzle. So they might move a light payload. But no landing four ton crafts on the moon, and no rover on Mars.

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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: ShayneJUK

this is interesting. of course the missiles exist. the main argument is that they don't detonate the way we've been shown and that it's not all that simple. also Nagasaki and Hiroshima have been of course bombed! just not by nukes.

check this out.
www.big-lies.org...



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: hellobruce

yeah. i hate that aspect of the website, you see the word Jews everywhere. nevertheless, that doesnt mean that all that's there is wrong.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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Japan says hello, nukes are real, and if someone who is unhinged and desperate enough they will use them



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

Watched your video, the kid is a bit nuts. Sun worshipers, Lucifer, Illuminati.
He just didn't understand what he was seeing and tried to manufacture an alternative theory.
Sorry, But go grab some land on Bikini Island. I hear you can get it cheap.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

Just to add to what everyone else has said... looking at conspiracy website and youtube videos is in no way research.

Research would be learning the science behind nuclkear weapons, cross referencing multiple knowledge sources and seeing if the evidence matches what you would expect.
Taking some guys word for it because he has a website and a video is not research.

Do you know ANYTHING about fission/fusion/isotopes/nuclear power/atoms/the strong and weak forces/radioactivity/neutrons etc...?

If your answer is no, then you have not done ANY "research"



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 06:59 AM
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originally posted by: P3tr4Q
a reply to: paraphi

I wonder how 9/11 will go down in the history books


Let's keep to topic, but in reply, ping me which alternative 9/11 theory you believe is most plausible. Was it really aliens and Mossad using a mass hallucinations beam?



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Do you know ANYTHING about fission/fusion/isotopes/nuclear power/atoms/the strong and weak forces/radioactivity/neutrons etc...?

If your answer is no, then you have not done ANY "research"


A good place to start your research on Atomic Bombs must be

The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes.

en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

Ok I`m for the conspiracy theories and all and know the history was usually written by winners when and if they had erased and exterminated all of the defeated nations when there was no one left to tell the other part of the story.

But considering how the Japanese resisted capitulation even after their allies had long surrendered and even against the all odds they kept fighting. So if the A bombs weren`t real, why had they surrendered just days after?

Some would say because Soveit Union declared war on Japan at the same time but it was well known before who was allied with whom.

And how come that many of those defeated are still alive today and tell us the same story as the "winners"?

Edit: Not meant to attack you or anything....just want you to ask yourself the same questions and find answers for yourself...
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posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

No, actually , I haven't looked closely. We may as well debate the existence of Santa and the Tooth Fairy as long as we're discussing "fake nukes". I posted a reply to the video on Youtube and was immediately attacked. This was the reply - with my screen name erased -



This was posted 26-8-2015, but the reply seems disabled; so I've reposted it here. ******* is too stupid to understand he (she, it, whatever) has been lied to, and too lazy to check. I have to wonder if this is a genetic weakness in average whites, which makes them such easy prey to Jews.
www.big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/5-Hiroshima-Nagasaki-myth-in-fact-not-nuked.html specifically is to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, though there are some long words. The cancer argument is nonsense: there are no genetic problems in Hiroshima.
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Wow. "A genetic weakness in the average Whites". So, if you don't swallow this crap, you're genetically inferior? Someone is keeping a close eye on the comments to this.

ETA - They seem to want to find any excuse to blame the Jews for the world's troubles. Pathetic.


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edit on 26-8-2015 by DAVID64 because: another typo, not enough coffee yet.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

There are nuclear weapons. There is a mountain of evidence about them and their effects. I can guarantee this.



posted on Aug, 26 2015 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: P3tr4Q

Is this video related?

Here is the Description:


Published on Jun 27, 2012

Galen Winsor is a nuclear physicist of renown who worked at, and helped design, nuclear power plants in Hanford, WA; Oak Ridge, TN; Morris, IL, San Jose, CA; Wimington, NJ. Among his positions of expertise he was in charge of measuring and controlling the nuclear fuel inventory and storage.

Galen Winsor has traveled and lectured all over America, spoken on national talk radio, and made several videos exposing the misunderstood issues of nuclear radiation. He shows that fear of radiation has been exaggerated to scare people ... so a few powerful people can maintain total control of the world's most valuable power resource. Filmed by Ben Williams in 1986.



www.youtube.com...


(Following the Description, the YouTuber listed numerous links that can be checked out.)




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