Jorge Ramos Tries To Disrupt Trump Press Conference, booted. When civil, he was allowed to return

a reply to: infolurker

LOL , Ever been in a Casino ? You cause a Problem there , you go out the Front Door Head First..............

a reply to: infolurker

IMO Trump missed on a serious opportunity to throw some smack on the face of Jorge Ramos.

He should have asked Jorge why is his country and south America so cr@ppy for the most part, that their people are willing to come here illegally to become slave labor?

I don't like trump , but man I do enjoy how he handles the MSM who are one of the biggest problem in this country.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: infolurker

IMO Trump missed on a serious opportunity to throw some smack on the face of Jorge Ramos.

He should have asked Jorge why is his country and south America so cr@ppy for the most part, that their people are willing to come here illegally to become slave labor?

Ramos is a member of the media, now if Trump were in a forum discussing that topic with the leaders of the nations south of the US... perhaps it would be worthy of Trumps smackdown..

The media doesn't run the election... it's the folks who are or desire to be in office... Trump in my opinion is just refreshing the voters to that fact....

Personally, I want to hear every candidate in their own words, not packaged time convenient edited clips that fit whatever MSM outlet wants to highlight for their evening news broadcast...

Where's Sgt Friday when you need him?

theres always two sides to the story. according to ramos, (loosely translated) he was waiting to ask the question and there were 2 people in front of him that got to ask questions but when he felt it was his turn to ask he was forcibly escorted out, now here is where it gets interesting, according to ramos other reporters stood up for him and said that if barak obama could handle tough questions from univision so should he and that they asked donald if he would let ramos back in to ask questions and donald said ok.

here is the video if anyone knows how to embed please do noticias.univision.com... 8e869344e0a8e8b05248f~27b3330d1ce28ff2491234d2b4a05298&ftloc=collection16809:wcmWidgetUimHulkDeckCards4x4

a reply to: JacKatMtn

Ramos is a member of the media, now if Trump were in a forum discussing that topic with the leaders of the nations south of the US... perhaps it would be worthy of Trumps smackdown..

I understand Jorge Ramos is a member of the media but did you watch the video? they were going back and forth.

The media doesn't run the election... it's the folks who are or desire to be in office... Trump in my opinion is just refreshing the voters to that fact....

The media might not run the election but they are key on who gets elected. They have the power to build or crush your public image. Ask Ron Paul.

Personally, I want to hear every candidate in their own words, not packaged time convenient edited clips that fit whatever MSM outlet wants to highlight for their evening news broadcast...

Agreed, but just because its their own words it doesn't make it right. When it comes to immigration Trump is full of B$ but so are the rest of the candidates.

Immigration is the easiest problem to fix with a one step solution.

1. prosecute the American companies that hire them with 15-29K fines per illegals. That will stop the majority of illegals from coming here , because you took their incentives away. Hence no problem on the Canadian border, they have no incentives to come.

However, the problem with stopping illegal immigration is that our economy will take a SERIOUS hit because its engrained into our economy.

What Trump is doing is "Never letting a good crisis go to Waste" . That wall will cost some serious money to build and maintain . I 'm sure it will be just pure coincidences on the number of politicians who have brothers,friends, or associates that just so happen to have a wall building LLC that can build and maintain that wall.

That wall is not going to stop the majority of illegal immigrants from coming because not only are American companies giving them incentives to come here , but one of the biggest and top influential lobbyist group is also the biggest offender of illegal immigration: Agriculture industries.

Too much money to be made by illegal immigration and they are inter-whined with our economy that is why all the politicians have not solved the issue nor do they even bring up the fact that American companies are giving them incentives to come.

Trump in my opinion is just refreshing the voters to that fact....

Agreed, but jumping in a shark infested pool of hungry sharks can be refreshing as well for a few minutes anyways.

a reply to: interupt42

IMO we ( citizens) have a much larger crisis... the folks who reside in DC... be it House Senate Prez or the folks in the Supreme Court..

We (citizens) have been run through the ringer... and the best they can do is to try and keep us separated on issues that pale to what they are doing with our money...

We can argue about social issues, the environment, education, the VA, welfare, health care, etc.. etc... till we are blue in the face, or most likely turned away from participating in the process...

If we (citizens, the folks who pay the bill, from every niche of the political spectrum) don't get rid of the LIFERS in our highest level of government.. we will have to be satisfied with joining the bandwagon of folks who would just rather throw mud across the aisle, and continue the mess that we have before us...

/rant I am good for a few of these every election cycle... and definitely don't want to offend anyone, perhaps trigger an interest in what's at stake...

as always.. YMMV...

a reply to: JacKatMtn

IMO we ( citizens) have a much larger crisis... the folks who reside in DC... be it House Senate Prez or the folks in the Supreme Court..

Agreed.

We (citizens) have been run through the ringer... and the best they can do is to try and keep us separated on issues that pale to what they are doing with our money...

Agreed, unfortunately they have been very successful in making everything a 2 sided issue and forcing people to pick sides.

We can argue about social issues, the environment, education, the VA, welfare, health care, etc.. etc... till we are blue in the face, or most likely turned away from participating in the process...

Agreed,

Unfortunately, those are also symptoms from the real issue. The real issue is our congress and politicians are enslaved by the lobbyist money who also control the GOP, DNC, and the MSM.

The real problem are:
1. the fact that it takes half a billion dollars to run for office.
2. The DNC , GOP, and MSM are in full control of the candidates public image.
3. Unlimited Congregational terms.
4. Unlimited super pacs.
5. The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) is solely controlled by the DNC and the GOP.

You can't fix any of those things you listed until you get the corruption out of DC. After all ,they were the ones that created the existing policies that the lobbyist clients are handsomely benefiting from. The system is working perfectly for the lobbyists, for us not so much.

IMO the only way that we can fix this country is by having the individual Democrats and individual Republicans temporarily putting their party ideals to the side and demand focus solely on political corruption in DC and lobbying reform. Unfortunately, even after I'm dead I still wouldn't be able to hold my breath long enough for that to happen.

a reply to: interupt42

The Citizens United SC ruling ( what a joke) much like the recently passed Freedom Act by our wonderful Reps & Sens have only highlighted the failure of the populous...

Don't look now.. TPP is now active?

It's nice to see folks here on ATS discuss and agonize, battle positions, beliefs, ideas... it's much less gratifying to see what is actually being done whilst the majority of folks sleep....

Trump has had enough of the controlled media.Trump is a master at sucking in His audience without any teleprompter or anything.He may win this thing.
Trump is going to attack all the media that has turned into garbage sensantionalism all over the place.We may have a real leader in Trump if He wins.

a reply to: Jobeycool

So you'll vote for a man that has admittedly bought politicians? You don't think wall street has enough money to buy trump?

originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: Jobeycool

So you'll vote for a man that has admittedly bought politicians? You don't think wall street has enough money to buy trump?

Trump is tired of the same process ..DUHHH.He admitted he has done it.He is fed up with the country and so far is doing a good job.
Just going to say what if Jade Helm is about the illegal immigration problem.Because their is no way in hell the government is going to continue to allow this fiasco to continue.You think the Feds are happy losing all this tax money.People have got to be kidding themselves about this much lawless garbage going on.

a reply to: infolurker

Jorge Ramos is an actor and puppet doing what he is paid to do... I saw this unfold like a very poor bit of U.S. American dinner theatre acting. I found it impossible to buy into the scenario especially after Ramos returned - a changed man - and was allowed to engage in his questioning.

There is too much about the Trump campaign that reminds me of the theatrics of the National Socialist Party before Hitler was elected. I do not know Trump and do not mean to besmirch him by the association, but his performance in Alabama sent chills through many who are either students of the Hitler era or they themselves lived through it. Trump needs to be very careful not to come off sounding as though his speeches are translations and updates of speeches given by the National Socialists before the beginning of World War II.

I am stuck with the sense of bad theatrics with the Ramos eruption and quelling. And I am very disquieted by Trump's language and demeanour. I really do understand the populist appeal of Trump, but I am seeking to be wise and to recognise a wolf when it comes in sheep's clothing or is blatantly showing up as a wolf and saying to any and all,"Deal with it."

originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: infolurker

It's up to the Spanish media to expose trump as the nativist, xenophobic bigot that he is. Such a shame that the media is treating this clown like he's a kid by never asking him the important questions

God forbid a candidate focus on helping Americans, right? What a jerk Trump is, he obviously cares more about Americans than Mexicans. Doesn't Trump realize that the US doesn't have a right to have a border? America should just allow every poor, uneducated person in the world to come here. We can just use government money to support them all. Why do people even care? It's not their money, it's just government money. What a bunch of xenophobes. Americans suck, they're all racists.

I was suspicious of Trump and didn't know whether he could be trusted or not. Maybe he'd throw the election and in doing that it would be the only way the puppet masters could get who they really wanted, either Jeb Bush or a second choice Hillary. But those two are sucking swamp water in the polls and the public can't stand either of them. You can't fake an election if it isn't reasonably close. I'd want Rand Paul or maybe Walker or even Rubio, but Trump at least has the ability to speak the obvious and not worry about being politically correct and offending people.
I can't help feeling that all this doesn't matter, by 2016 we're going to be worrying about bigger things than who gets selected as POTUS.

And people say Obama was the coming Dictator of America? Haha. Donald is quite honestly in the beginning stages of being a Dictator. No advisers. His way or the highway. Removing people for yelling out question in an atmosphere that is known for things like this. Openly disrespecting the very people that hold the key to his election. Wanting to challenge the 14th amendment. Bullies every one but when he his bullied he tries to regain control by doing the very thing he is defending himself against. His ego is so fragile, similar to a narcissist, which is why he constantly validates himself with his 'book' deal, and how he built a fortune (which he really didn't. He just sat on his fathers' fortune.). This is why he repeats that he is smart constantly.

The victims of Dictators are never aware they are being pulled into a Dictatorship. They are too busy being caught up in the thrill and fear by the Dictator ,and trust that is what Donald is doing. They are so turned on by his bluntness which is actually child-like ignorance mistaken for adult bluntness. They rationalize his ignorance because they are projecting their awareness on the narcissist. "Oh, I think he meant it this way. Oh, no, Donald is trying to do this" No. Donald is not doing any of the things you are proposing, you are only trying to rationalize the situation to make yourself feel comfortable with the fact that there is something amiss about his personality.

Rising dictators always throw statements out that appeal to the emotions and because people respond more favorably to these, rather than rational arguments, they fall right in line, caught in the emotional moment, rather than seeking the rational solutions to the problems they have as a nation. Sure many people throw out statements that appeal to emotion as well but the frequency with which the Dictator does is unmatched. They will constantly appeal to the fear emotion, more than the happier emotion. This appeals more to the primal instinct of the human which adheres to a more animal hierarchy system, and once this is implemented, the victim of the dictator surrenders his being to the one who displays traits of 'dominance' or the perceived Alpha. Donald know how to project the aura of an Alpha but he lacks the life experience and compassion that true Alphas possess.

People don't know the small differences so they latch on to him as the protector. The one who will lead us out of this dangerous wilderness of illegal immigrants and low employment. But he will not. He is only used to operating within a framework of his own control and once he is fully acquainted with the political system and realizes he can't run a country like he runs his businesses, he will make efforts in making this country as similar to structure of his business as he can. ANd since he is somewhat of a dictator in his business, he will do the same with the country.

And they say Obama was going to be a Dictator? Haha, I do not support Obama, but if there is anyone who embodies the raw materials necessary in building the perfect Dictator, only rivaled by Hitler, it is TRUMP. Not Obama.

a reply to: hammanderr

Trump does not give a damn about Americans. He cares about posterity and unknowingly filling his narcissistic supply.

He said he had nothing to do with the removal. I don't know if he had anything to do with him coming back in, either. Regardless, that doesn't make a better candidate for President, and don't forget.. the only reason this guy was asking these questions is because of Trumps inane comments about Mexico in the first place.

I don't understand why people think just because Trump runs his campaign a different way.. he isn't the "status quo,".. that this somehow qualifies him to run the country. I feel he would just run it into the ground in different ways than his predecessors. He is the bull in a china shop.. not the best attribute for someone who must negotiate with allies and enemies both. Dealing with a customer in real estate is quite different than dealing with world leaders.

a reply to: infolurker

Side topic but doesn't that guys daughter work the for Clinton campaign?. Wonder if this will be his approach to any politician not Hillary

a reply to: infolurker
Here are the before and after videos

so every time the going gets tough trump will say a woman is bleeding from her everywhere, kick you out, insult you and not debate the actual topic at hand etc etc and this is the type of man some people want leading our country?

listen we have to be realistic about the illegal alien problem in the u.s. we need them as much as they need us. we have to come up w a realistic plan and work w mexico to come up w a diplomatic solution. if every illegal were to be permanently kicked out and an impenetrable wall put up it would not only cost billions but good luck getting american born workers do the labor it takes to keep this country running, even if you pay them more you will never find enough native born workers that would be willing and have the work ethic to get the job done. literally overnight our economy would die so be careful what you wish for.

deport the criminals, end welfare for illegals, fine corporations and businesses that hire illegals and then come up w a plan to allow foreign workers to come in and do the work (legally) that americans do not, cannot and will not do.