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originally posted by: introvert
We knew this was coming. Considering the "atrocities" we have seen in the video so far, I wonder why PP has not been investigated and shut down.
Could it be that there is no wrongdoing here?
Planned Parenthood Sues Louisiana Over Cut to Medicaid Funds
Federal officials have warned states that blocking Medicaid funds to Planned Parenthood could violate the law. Federal courts have overturned previous attempts in Arizona and Indiana to disqualify Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid reimbursements.
Despite the federal warning, Jindal spokesman Mike Reed called the lawsuit "without merit."
"The state will aggressively defend our right to cancel the contract," he said in a written statement Tuesday. "The Medicaid provider contract between the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals and Planned Parenthood gives either party the right to cancel the contract at will with a 30-day notice. Gov. Jindal and DHH chose to exercise that right.
" www.nytimes.com...
originally posted by: kellyjay
originally posted by: introvert
We knew this was coming. Considering the "atrocities" we have seen in the video so far, I wonder why PP has not been investigated and shut down.
Could it be that there is no wrongdoing here?
PP IS being investigated and its ongoing....
originally posted by: kellyjay
originally posted by: introvert
We knew this was coming. Considering the "atrocities" we have seen in the video so far, I wonder why PP has not been investigated and shut down.
Could it be that there is no wrongdoing here?
PP IS being investigated and its ongoing....
Center For Medical Progress Released Seven Deceptively Edited Videos Attacking Planned Parenthood, Despite Showing Nothing Illegal. As of August 19, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) had released seven deceptively edited videos purporting to show Planned Parenthood officials "haggling over" prices for fetal tissue donations, offering to change procedure techniques "to get more intact fetuses," and selling donations without consent. None of the videos include any evidence of illegal activity on Planned Parenthood's behalf, and each of them have been found to be deceptively edited in order to leave out crucial context.
U.S. Dept. Of Health And Human Services: There Are "No Known Violations Of The Country's Fetal Tissue Laws." In response to an inquiry by Republican Sens. Joni Ernst (Iowa) and Roy Blunt (MO), the Department of Health and Human Services told Congress that they "know of no violation of [tissue] laws in connection with the research done at our agencies":
Massachusetts: Investigation Reveals Planned Parenthood Is "Fully Compliant With State And Federal Laws." Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey announced on July 29 that her office has found "no evidence" of wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood after an investigation was concluded:
Indiana: Planned Parenthood Cleared Of Any Wrongdoing In The Handling Of Fetal Tissue. On July 30, the Indiana Department of Health cleared Planned Parenthood clinics in the state of any wrongdoing after they were "unable to find any non-compliance with state regulation"
South Dakota: No "Evidence Of Illegal Activity" In South Dakota At Planned Parenthood Clinic. South Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley determined that there was "no evidence of illegal activity" at the one Planned Parenthood clinic in the state
Georgia: Department Of Public Health Finds Planned Parenthood "Complied With The Law." After a review into the state's abortion providers, the Georgia Department of Public Health "concluded an investigation" and found that Planned Parenthood and other clinics "are all complying with the law"
Pennsylvania: "No Evidence" Of Wrongdoing By "Any Planned Parenthood" In Pennsylvania. As The Hill noted, Pennsylvania became the fifth state to find no wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood. Pennsylvania Secretary of Health Karen Murphy noted that the Pennsylvania state health department "has never found a violation of the Abortion Control Act provisions regarding the procurement or use of fetal tissue"
originally posted by: grandmakdw
Some thing can be legal and be sickening and disgusting.
Legal and not being prosecutable is not the same as acceptable.
How would you feel knowing that society in general feels it is ok for a researcher to joke and gag with a deceased adult's organs and to laugh at or about their body with colleagues over a meal in public?
If one finds this ethical and moral and they have no problem donating their body for an organ donation and having the doctors laughing at your body, and laughing over your body and making jokes about your body. Then you have a different set of ethics than I do.
Legal does not equal moral or ethical
But people are free to have the sense of humor they have. Why do you hate freedom?
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: kellyjay
originally posted by: introvert
We knew this was coming. Considering the "atrocities" we have seen in the video so far, I wonder why PP has not been investigated and shut down.
Could it be that there is no wrongdoing here?
PP IS being investigated and its ongoing....
And other than a few minor infractions, what has been found?
originally posted by: smurfy
I think it is pretty disgusting to listen to mutualities about profits being discussed over a bowl of Spaghetti.
All I can say is in the way I see it, if governments makes laws that allows these things to occur, then it's the governments responsibility to oversee and manage all of it, from start to end in the true ethics of research, that's the way it should be, especially in such a sensitive issue such as this....government at the helm
originally posted by: grandmakdw
Don't play into the same old people's hands by replying to them. It's useless, they probably had abortions or paid for their "baby mama" to have an abortion and by rejoicing in the behavior of PP they are making themselves feel better and moral.
So from now on I suggest for your own sanity, that you totally ignore the same old apologists that show up on every thread. Let them say the same old things over and over and get it off their chests.
Look at all the stars and flags, you know that most of the people see the immorality of what has been exposed. It may be legal, it may be something that the same old people find perfectly acceptable. But know that the majority find it as immoral and sickening as you do.
We just have different ideas of morality and ethics.
Let them be, the same old people with the same old lines.
You know that they will never, ever, ever admit that what PP
is doing is ugly, sickening and disrespectful to human lives.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
What is going on is no different then what happens if you decide you want your body to go to research after you die.
If y'all have an issue with the abortion part fine, but PP prevents more then it carries out.
So it seems rather hypocritical to take the stance to get rid of it.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: xuenchen
I'm sorry, but I seem to have missed the illegal part.
I notice y'all don't like the law and want it changed when you feel it violates your rights some how
Bit hypocritical to be spouting off about the law
Law doesn't = right
originally posted by: kellyjay
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: xuenchen
I'm sorry, but I seem to have missed the illegal part.
the illegal part is when the woman from stem express is talking about the clinics making a PROFIT.....P R O F I T
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Remember, these people were being LED to say what they did. In BOTH cases, the "jokes" were told by the actors pretending to be customers. (Yes, I watched this video after all)
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: smurfy
I think it is pretty disgusting to listen to mutualities about profits being discussed over a bowl of Spaghetti.
If you were a surgeon, mortician, or any number of professions, you would see and hear some things that would twist your brain, for sure. When it comes right down to it, people are going to say things we don't like to hear. Remember, these people were being LED to say what they did. In BOTH cases, the "jokes" were told by the actors pretending to be customers. (Yes, I watched this video after all)
originally posted by: smurfy
My objection is where laws are made in a mostly perfunctory way, and where people can actually profit from it a monetary way, indeed as IS seen a potential tripartite money machine. There is no way I would allow a creation of mine to be the subject of a dime for you, a dollar for him, and a couple more for the dirtbirds who do the packaging.
No fecking way.
A written donation must be signed by the donor and witnessed by at least two other people.
The recipient cannot pay for the donated organ but must pay for the cost of transportation and transplant. Organs and tissue can only be received by hospitals, surgeons, physicians, educational institutions involved in medical or dental research, a storage facility for these institutions, or any specified individual who needs the organ personally for therapy or transplantation.