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Perpetual War and the Six Seals of Revelation

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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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The Second Coming of Jesus Christ is described in the book of Revelation in the bible. It is described as a time of plague, war, famine, evil, and deception.

The four horsemen are described in Revelation 6, they signify the beginning of Jesus' return.

The First Seal




Revelation 6
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.


This horseman is seen by some to be Jesus himself, as alluded to in Revelation 19.


Revelation 19
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.


The first horseman is said to ride a white horse just like Jesus is riding in Revelation 19, he is also said to be a conqueror or vanquisher. Who is it that conquers and vanquishes others? Nations and governing authorities. As an example, I will use Jesus' own words.


Matthew 24
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.


Jesus is speaking of the end times here. This is a reference to the passage in Revelation 6 about the "conqueror and vanquisher" of nations, the first horseman of the apocalypse. Jesus is also said to rule the nations with an iron scepter, implying that Jesus is using the nations as a way to conquer what he wishes to conquer.

The Second Seal


Revelation 6
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.


The second horseman is said to be war. He is released after the first horseman is released. What did Jesus say about himself?


Matthew 10
34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.


Jesus says that he came to bring a sword, the second horseman is said to carry a great sword. Could this horseman be the nations and kingdoms that Jesus is said to rule with an iron scepter and whom Jesus has given his great sword to? Nations and kingdoms are the ones who wage wars, a lot of the time in the name of religion, and even in Jesus' name on occasion. The Inquisitions and Crusades come to mind here.

The Third Seal


Revelation 6
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.


The third horseman is commonly said to be Famine, but I disagree with this interpretation. I see the third horseman as the Monetary System (which can lead to famine if you do not have money to buy food) of the nations and kingdoms who war with one another. What is war usually waged for? Resources, they are gained from conquest and are sold for a wage or money, hence the horseman holding a pair of balances in his hand.

The horseman says to not hurt the oil or wine. Why oil and wine? Because they are of the Lord Jesus. Jesus turned water into wine and wine is drank through the ritual of the Eucharist. Also, believers are said to go to church elders if they are sick in order to be anointed with oil and to be healed.


James 5
14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.


Those who drink the wine of the Eucharist are usually tithers, otherwise they would not be allowed to partake in the Eucharist. They believe the wine is the blood of Jesus and believe that it heals them. Prosperity preachers also use the ruse of healing the sick to line their pockets and balance the scales in their favor. The oil and wine are symbols of healing, something the church claims to do every single day. This is why the third horseman, the Monetary System, says not to hurt the oil or wine, they are the source of their income.

Who else is said to love wine?


Revelation 17
2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.


The followers of the adulteress/prostitute of Revelation, a.k.a. Mystery Babylon. She is said to make her followers drunk off of her wine. Does the Eucharist ring any bells here? Also, the kings of the Earth have committed adultery with her, the same kings of nations that Jesus rules with an iron scepter? The Jesus that turned water into wine? Hmmm....

The Fourth Seal


Revelation 6
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


The fourth horseman is of course Death. War and the monetary system (Famine) attached to it always leave death in their wake. Hell is said to be the second death, which is why hell is said to follow (the first) Death. Who is it that gave power to Death to kill with the sword? The first horseman of course, Jesus. The one who did not come to bring peace, but war. The same one who gave the second horseman, War, his great sword.

(Continued....)




posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:59 PM
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The Fifth Seal


Revelation 6
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


This is of course speaking of those who were killed for spreading the gospel of Jesus. The nations that killed Jesus' followers are the same ones who are ruled by Jesus with an iron scepter. Rome was ruled by Jesus, hence why they converted to Christianity eventually, even Paul says that all authorities are God’s servants.


Romans 13
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.


So anyone who is in authority is there because God put them there. If Jesus is God then Jesus has control over them because he rules all nations with an iron scepter as stated in Revelation 19. Why is Jesus ordering Rome to kill his own people? This is a very important question that needs to be answered in my opinion, hopefully I will be able to do this a bit later on.

The Sixth Seal



Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood


Does this scenario sound familiar to you? It sounds a bit like the scenario during Jesus’ crucifixion and death.


Matthew 27
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.


So there was an earthquake and the sun was darkened. What about the moon being blood red though? This could be implied by Jesus praying on the Mount of Olives after the Last Supper.


Luke 22
39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. 40 On reaching the place, he said to them, “Pray that you will not fall into temptation.” 41 He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” 43 An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.


So Jesus goes up to the top of the Mount of Olives, which is a hill East of Jerusalem. The night of Passover would have seen a full moon rising in the East according to some, if Jesus was facing East toward the moon and it was a blood moon, the reflection of the moon’s light would have made Jesus’ sweat look like blood. While this may be a bit of a stretch based on a few assumptions, I think it has merit.

So what does this all point toward? That the Seals have already been broken and the four horsemen have been riding over the Earth for quite a while now. Jesus was the first horseman, what came in his wake is everything that is wrong with the world today. While war was part of our world before Jesus came, this thread is in the context of the bible and the words of Revelation.

Revelation was not a prophecy, it was an observation of what was already happening at the time and what had already happened before that time.

So why has the church convinced people that Revelation is a prophecy of future events that have yet to happen fully? Because they want us to wait, they want us complacent about war and what it MAY bring. We have been warring for thousands of years now, ever since Jesus died and even before that. Those who wait for Jesus’ return are complacent about war because they believe it will herald in Jesus’ new kingdom, so instead of opposing the wars they sit on their hands and wait believing that it is a sign of Jesus’ return.

Whose hand does this complacency play into? Those who wage the wars, the nations that Jesus supposedly has control over, the same nations who preserved the bible that we have today. They have preserved it for a reason, because it causes COMPLACENCY toward war by saying it is inevitable because of the corrupt nature of man, and only after we have war will the savior return to save them.

Revelation is a war manifesto along with the rest of the bible, a manifesto commissioned by those in power at the time: Rome, and preserved by those of the same ilk that came after. It is a manifesto for PERPETUAL WAR, making people complacent about it for the hope of Jesus' return.

The first seal was Jesus being created/perverted by the Roman empire; the second seal was the war waged in the name of Jesus; the third seal was the money/resources that were gained by those in power through their conquests in Jesus’ name; the fourth seal was the death left behind in the wake of the conquests and wars in Jesus’ name; the fifth seal are those who were killed during those conquests and those who have to wait for Jesus’ return, those who are deceived by the religion of Christianity; and the sixth and final seal was the thing that capped it all off and made it all possible: Jesus’ crucifixion, death, and supposed resurrection.

The last shall be first and the first shall be last, the first and sixth seals speak of the same thing: Jesus and Rome’s conquest to rule the world. It has worked flawlessly so far. The seals have already been broken people, ALL of them. Jesus is the Beast of Revelation, the church is the prostitute and Mystery Babylon, and the dragon is the elite class who oppress us with their fairy tales.
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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

The first Seal: The White Horse Rider is the Anti-Christ.

The false "white knight".

It is quite clear when Jesus returns... he returns at the end during the battle of Armageddon.

Also, only the Uneducated would believe that the Revelation is of past events unless a 200 million man army has already marched across a dried up Euphrates river and the Human Race had the ability to exterminate all life on the planet during Roman times.

Also, The Gospel was not preached to all the world as required and they didn't have instant world wide communications so that the leaders of the world could all "see" the dead bodies of the 2 witnesses.
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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Jesus IS the false "white knight", at least his sacrificial lamb aspect is. Rome turned Jesus, who taught love above sacrifice, into a sacrificial lamb who is supposed to return to fix everything for us.


Matthew 9
13 But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."



Mark 12
32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.


Jesus agrees that love is more important than sacrifice.


John 14
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."


Jesus says that those who keep his commands (love God and others) will be loved by him. Giving love is what lets you receive it, not a sacrifice. Jesus desired mercy (an outward manifestation of love), not sacrifice.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

What?

So Yeshua HaMashia who chose to sacrifice his physical body in atonement to save mankind from the wages of sin is your Anti-Christ?

What would you "classify" as your religious beliefs? New Age, Chrislam?
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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

two witnesses are demons, a new deity comes from their dead corpses?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:32 PM
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Revelation 13
3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”


One of the heads of the beast received a mortal wound but was healed, sounds a lot like Jesus' "mortal" death and eventually "healing" or resurrection doesn't it? People are also filled with wonder over him and follow him. They worship the dragon, Yahweh of the OT, thinking it is Jesus' Father and God. It isn't, that is the one who required sacrifice, something Jesus had no interest in.

Funny that the God of the bible and church requires sacrifice in order to forgive people. Jesus himself thought otherwise.


Matthew 6
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.


Jesus said that if you forgive others who sin against you, his Father will also forgive you. The dragon (Yahweh) requires sacrifice in order to be forgiven for sins.

There is a clear dichotomy between the words Jesus spoke and the sacrificial lamb that the church and those in power promote. They are like oil and water, they do not mix.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Applauses!! But the fourth is the purge, War and famine are already here.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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Revelation 11
3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.” 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.


The two witnesses are Peter and Paul in my opinion, the ones who signify the church. They are its founders. They are the ones clothed in sackcloth, the same material that is said to cover the sun and cause darkness over the world.


Revelation 6
12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red


The sun turning black means that the sackcloth the two witnesses (Paul and Peter/the church) are wearing have blinded the world to the truth in my opinion. They have blocked out the light with their prophesying and lies, one of those prophecies being Revelation, the book the church uses to keep people complacent about war.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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Hey, you can spread your "versions" all you want. Those who follow the gospel know the real deal and will not fall for your deceptions.

The most glorious prophesied future event in the Bible is the Second Coming to this earth of God’s only begotten Son Yeshua Elohim, Jesus Christ. The Bible is abundantly clear that Jesus Christ will return to earth, and He will return in the same way as He left.

Acts 1:9-11
9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven."

Jesus left earth from the Mount of Olives and rose up into the clouds in the sky to ascend to heaven. Jesus will return to the Mount of Olives in the same way as He left, returning in the clouds from heaven.

Zechariah 14:4
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.

Matthew 24:30
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.



That and only that is the return of Yeshua. Any other babel is clearly false.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

What?

So Yeshua HaMashia who chose to sacrifice his physical body in atonement to save mankind from the wages of sin is your Anti-Christ?

What would you "classify" as your religious beliefs? New Age, Chrislam?


You haven't been paying attention to some of this OP's other postings.


This one is one of the do whatever so long as you love posters and it's all good so long as you love ...

The idea of salvation is right out to them.

I agree with you that they are primed to fall with the first rider. He will be the white knight they think they've been waiting for. He rides with the arrows and conquers without firing a shot whereas Christ comes with a sword. The idea of conquering without firing a shot suggest deception, and we know who the biggest deceiver of all is - The Father of Lies - and the greatest lie of all will be to counterfeit the truth even to appearing as an angel of light.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:45 PM
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Yes, if i was good at philosophy i would had said it like that, religious beliefs, not church.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:45 PM
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Funny that you mention Jesus ascending into heaven from the Mount of Olives. What did Solomon build on the Mount of Olives in the OT?


1 Kings 11
7 On the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, he even built a pagan shrine for Chemosh, the detestable god of Moab, and another for Molech, the detestable god of the Ammonites.


Shrines for worshiping pagan idols. Rome was a pagan empire who adopted Jesus as their God, along the way they turned him into a pagan idol.
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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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Yes, Jesus the sacrificial lamb is a product of the Father of Lies, he is the counterfeit truth appearing as an angel of light.

The god of this world is Satan, the Abrahamic god is the most popular on this world. Let's connect the dots here why don't we?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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Yeah.

Here is one that is useful to explain that kind of love (like loving them so much you refuse to argue with them that the titanic is sinking because they don't want to hear it or believe it):


The truth is, love and acceptance are not the same thing. The even bigger truth is that love is messy and hard, while acceptance is clean and easy.

Love sometimes means telling your friends they're wrong. It sometimes means calling them out on their behaviors. Love sometimes means disagreements and arguments, but those ultimately lead to personal and spiritual growth.

The alternative would be allowing your friends to participate in behavior that is harmful to them and their salvation.

The continuation of sinful behavior results in death. The acceptance of Christ—that is, leaving your earthly desires behind to pick up your cross and follow Him—leads to eternal life.

True love does not simply accept sin, because true love wants the best for our brothers and sisters. True love doesn't just accept because true love cannot accept death for our brothers and sisters. So yes, love can get messy. It can be painful because it makes for more vulnerable relationships. But these are the relationships that are real. These are the relationships that encourage change and foster growth through the promotion of truth.

www.relevantmagazine.com...



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:02 PM
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How did you connect the dots?

ADD? Asperger? You need a high IQ
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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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Love thyself was a great poem by Charlie Chaplin, embrace it



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, Jesus the sacrificial lamb is a product of the Father of Lies, he is the counterfeit truth appearing as an angel of light.

The god of this world is Satan, the Abrahamic god is the most popular on this world. Let's connect the dots here why don't we?


So YHWH / Elohim is what you believe is Satan?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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Throwing away preconceived notions was step one, step two was reading with an open mind. The rest came with study and cross referencing. A high IQ isn't really necessary in my opinion, just a willingness to find the truth.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:10 PM
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The cross referencing is about connecting them until you find an answer which is logical, a normal person does not have the patience. When you have thousands upon thousands of reading material you have to assert to memories, ADD or Asperger which usually defines images with text not just text.

If you are a normal person and still did this, im really impressed.



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