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Windows 10 Banned by Torrent Trackers / File-Sharers at Risk

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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: darkbake

My goodness. Thieves think they are being victimized.
Well, that kind of thinking is in the air these days.
It could suggested that is one aspect of what is wrong with the general society today, but probably it would be shouted down.

Well. First of all, those who put files on an online sharing portal have usually paid for their use.
Second, it is only in the First World that individuals can pay for software and films. So far what you had to endure - even in a poorer EU country- is that there are a lot of interruptions by commercials, ads, popup etc.

That is how the market would regulate itself. Period.

Windows has enjoyed an unreasonable monopoly - not necessarily because it is good. Part of it came form MS's unfair trade practices in that they deliberately made other software incompatible with their developments as long as the other software's developer did not agree with Microsoft's dictates, and sometimes even in sharing their profits. That is like protection money.

A lot of antivirus software already made that agreement with the copyright enforcers and Microsoft. If you use an unpaid program - which over two-thirds or more of the world will use of necessity - many antivirus programs will stop you automatically.

Now everyone knows that with unpaid software you do not get support, it may crash, it may actually harbor some undesirable trojans plus large companies sometimes know that you are using their stuff as soon as you are online and simply deactivate it. If you pay, you get support, bug fixes and guarantees which can be enforced legally.

Last but not least, the issue of privacy. This is big in the First World, because it ties to our philosophy of individual rights being protected from large organizations like the state. The truth will out and users will be outraged. The whole concept is unenforceable in anywhere but the First World, but there people still stick up for privacy issues especially when it is not some kind of national security issue - it is only that some people want to make more money than what society would allow them.

Corollary: Microsoft is engaging in an unfair policing practice using its monopolistic position (which ought to be turned into a public service IMHO). I guess torrenters will have to invent some new software to defuse this. And they will. Until then, I will warn people who download or upload to wait it out with Win10.




posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 03:24 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
Microsoft has decided that the users of Windows 10 don't get any data protection - and it is going to actively send data about its users to companies such as MarkMonitor, one of the largest anti-piracy companies.

Is there a real Microsoft statement about that?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: darkbake

would you check this out. I don't know if it's legit or not but i'd really like someone's honest opinion on it. Thankyou.

www.godlikeproductions.com...



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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I've had W10 for a few weeks and haven't noticed any problems at all with trackers, available seeds or d/l speeds.

If it was a genuine issue, there are workarounds. You could use an Ubuntu live disc and use their 'Transmission' client. Download the files to a USB or send them to whatever cloud you subscribe to.

Mega offers something like 25gb for free and DropBox is 2gb free.

Friends stopped using torrents a couple of years ago and use Usenet. Too much hassle for a lazy guy like me : )



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: Tellurian


a reply to: imitator
Windows 10 sounds like it sucks.... is Hitler still alive and working for Microsoft?


yes , but he wanted to call it "Windows Nein"


In another 10 yrs it won't be Hitler in that Video it will be Obummer. just saying...



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:04 AM
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There seems to be a "fear" of Microsoft.

All commercial enterprises seek to control their market. However, every time Microsoft releases a new product out come the same old blah, blah, blah. Yet, actual facts are thin on the ground and to "prove" their points people rely on blogs and other people's insourced opinions.

I am not a Microsoft apologist, but use MS because it's good - better than Linux, which I used to use extensively. I refuse to use the "all controlling" Apple products. If you are worried about people storing data about you, you should revert to sending letters.

Has anyone got anything factual that states that Windows 10 can prevent file sharing?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:11 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
There seems to be a "fear" of Microsoft.

All commercial enterprises seek to control their market. However, every time Microsoft releases a new product out come the same old blah, blah, blah. Yet, actual facts are thin on the ground and to "prove" their points people rely on blogs and other people's insourced opinions.

I am not a Microsoft apologist, but use MS because it's good - better than Linux, which I used to use extensively. I refuse to use the "all controlling" Apple products. If you are worried about people storing data about you, you should revert to sending letters.

Has anyone got anything factual that states that Windows 10 can prevent file sharing?


Sooo .... you trust Microsoft over Apple or..you trust everything you're told by either company? Which is it?

Microsoft wants to control the digital pc world,
Apple wants to as well however only one has the funding to do so
the other had been neutered. Which one do you love Microplague or Appocolypse?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:23 AM
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originally posted by: awareness10
Sooo .... you trust Microsoft over Apple or..you trust everything you're told by either company? Which is it?


I trust neither. I use MS because it's a good product, esp. MS Office. If you have any evidence that MS collect and control data about me, then please do post it here.

What about you? Do you believe everything you read?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: awareness10
Sooo .... you trust Microsoft over Apple or..you trust everything you're told by either company? Which is it?


I trust neither. I use MS because it's a good product, esp. MS Office. If you have any evidence that MS collect and control data about me, then please do post it here.

What about you? Do you believe everything you read?
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No i don't trust everything i read, i'm assuming you don't either.

However there are good people out there which is why i posted what i did in my previous post and which i will post again here for you.
What do you think of this?
www.godlikeproductions.com...



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: awareness10

The batch script you linked to is for people who want to get rid of the windows 10 update feature that is now on windows 7 and 8.1
I never tried it, as I already have win10 installed, and you will probably have to run it every windows update, but it could be useful for those who want to get rid of the nagging for a while.
I have had no problems with trackers either.


EDIT: Nope my mistake, it seems to kill the auto update function, I may try it after all, however, i am not sure why I would want to kill auto update.
edit on 24-8-2015 by Jonjonj because: stupidity



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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Anyway, I found a video for any windows 10 users who want to address issues.




posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: Jonjonj

Im just wondering, why would you not want to kill the auto update feature? I prefer as others i know, to update what if deem updatable, and would rather dictate what is added onto my pc and not micro 'we own you', soft.

If i can choose what goes on my own personal pc which i bought and paid for that would be fair. However they aren't being fair in that, they want me and everyone else who has invessted in their company to 'trust them and do what they're told'. I don't think so.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: iDope

Yes, it should be a human right to watch Game of Thrones for the "greater good". Riiiiiight.

Jeez, get over yourself. You download stuff illegally because you're too cheap to pay for the media you consume, not because you're on some crusade to better humanity.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: awareness10

Well that may be fine for you, are you a techie?
Windows does updates almost always for security or quality reasons. Now, if you are tech savvy, and understand what each update addresses, that is fine, but not everybody knows what is necessary and what is not.
I always used the "let me know" for windows updates, but I really don't worry about the option not being available for now.
By the way, the video I posted should address many, many issues, however I noticed that I do not have access to the local group policy editor.
I suppose because I am using an associated windows account?



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:44 AM
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The windows 10 installer allows you to choose what features to install. Just choose custom setup, instead of express. Turn off every switch.

Anything you missed can be turned off in control panel.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
Windows 10 is being banned by torrent trackers, meaning that file-sharers using Windows 10 will be unable to download their torrents. They did this in response to Windows 10 vaguely stating that it can disable pirated games. However, there is more. Microsoft has decided that the users of Windows 10 don't get any data protection - and it is going to actively send data about its users to companies such as MarkMonitor, one of the largest anti-piracy companies.

What kind of data will be sent to these people? Well, for one, Google searches, and for another local disk searches, for example if you are going to search your hard drive for a certain movie or song to watch or listen to this gets sent to the anti-piracy companies in order to make sure it is all legit.


"Unfortunately Microsoft decided to revoke any kind of data protection and submit whatever they can gather to not only themselves but also others. One of those is one of the largest anti-piracy company called MarkMonitor," a staff at iTS stated on Reddit.



"What's particularly nasty is that apparently it sends the results of local(!!) searches to a well known anti piracy company directly so as soon as you have one known p2p or scene release on your local disk ... BAM!," BB noted.


Source

On to other privacy concerns outside of file-sharing, Windows 10 can do the following:


Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.


This means that they look at your e-mails and other content on your PC and can turn them over to whoever they want if they find it necessary.

Visit the following article to learn how to turn on privacy settings in Windows 10 to maximize privacy.

[url=http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html]Slate.com[ /url]


yay. yet another FUD thread about windows 10.

afaik they cannot ban windows 10 users from trackers directly - they can ban them from their websites, based on user-agent sent by the browser - but that can be faked. torrent clients send client info, not OS info, so there's no way to know afaik - and even if there is, such info can be faked as well.

so nothing will change, at worst some paranoid torrent site owners will force some people to fake their user-agent.

and that last quote that's being repeated over and over again, is from microsoft's privacy policy regarding their services. hint hint: windows 10 isn't listed on that services list, and all that 'e-mail and private folders' stuff means outlook.com and onedrive - so stuff they already have on their servers BECAUSE THOSE ARE THEIR SERVICES.

stop beating the dead horse.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: sn0rch

originally posted by: yuppa
HA sanyone heard of turining off windows update and in the srervices and disabling the rights protection? Sheesh. its a easy fix to keep windows from spying on you. SHoot you can even get programs that will block microsoft having access to the system.


Obv a M$ shill here to sell the devils soul to us.

we're onto you, demon.. as if turning off those things makes a di.. oh wait..

huh... what do you know...


Lol!!! Im going to star that post lol!! Its hilarious how much people get scared of anything new isnt it? I put win 10 on my neices laptop and rigged it so microsoft coudnt get info from it. One turn off location tracking,then turn off cortana. Find God mode then tweak all th eother stuff off you dont want and micro soft on wont be able to track you.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: darkbake

would you check this out. I don't know if it's legit or not but i'd really like someone's honest opinion on it. Thankyou.

www.godlikeproductions.com...


I thought ATS hated that site? lol



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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Realistically, I doubt any of this is going to actually cause serious problems in the immediate future. Like always, they'll leave it to cool and let the noise die down and then take another baby step. The privacy nightmares you see developing today most likely won't cause any real trouble for anyone for at least a decade. By that time it'll be long forgotten just how it started



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: KilroyRock

originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: Aliensun

It's not thievery, it is sharing. Was it thievery to make mixtapes in the 90's ripped from the radio? No. Was it thievery to record HBO or Cinamax movies with VHS for your in home pleasure? No. As long as it wasn't being sold. No one sells torrents either. It is the displacement of information for the common good who wish to be apart of that information.


Just a note, vhs and tape companies have to pay a "fee" to the riaa people and the movie companies due to a lawsuit in the 80's. The problem here is there are no vcr companies to shake down with online sharing. My views are aligned in the gray area of it all, but I still don't think I will get Windows ten until forced to or they turn it off. Like the serial numbers in the old Intel processors of ~2000.

I think the saving of information is mostly to market similarly to the way gmail is run, to sell advertising, but backhanded deals are backhanded deals.


If that is true, then why do they still sell blank VHS tapes and DVD's and BluRays? So is there a lawsuit for DVD, BluRay, and producers of those players as well? Since I can dual record movies and record straight from TV to disc? If I buy a movie and have a party at my house and let people view it for free it is against the law, If I charge them money to watch it, it is against the law. That is how ridiculous it is. So why not just give them copies of the movie if they provide the disc?


In Canada there is a 15% surcharge on blank digital media. That surcharge goes to the CMRRA.I don't know about anywhere else, but up here in canadakastan, Harpernista and his crew of like minded asclowns are up under everyone's digital skirts.

Cheers - Dave




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