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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: mOjOm
here is an answer from someone else...
carm.org...
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All the scientific evidence points to the universe exploding out of true nothingness, but atheists like Krauss hate this truth.
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: mOjOm
Well in all reality they are both just opinions and nothing more...
What I illustrated was the fact because he is an atheist expressing his point of view and can not will not except a true beggining...
so nothing remains nothing and nothing more without creation...
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
I have already told you they are both only opinions...
You seem to believe he has proven the universe always existed...
this is not so...
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Phantom423
I may be wrong...except an expanding universe only eludes to a point of origin...
All of the universe is expanding except that which is traveling inward due to black holes...
Therefore it is logical to assume the universe is not infinite as everything including black holes and stars have begginigs and endings...
yes black hole are believed to cease to exist...
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: mOjOm
I have already told you they are both only opinions...
You seem to believe he has proven the universe always existed...
this is not so...
Please post links to the research that shows that the universe is finite.
Well in all reality they are both just opinions and nothing more...
originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Barcs
I never said ever that evolution does not take place...
I have said creation allows for evolution...
You can't just make things up and put your own spin on it unless you can prove to me something can evolve from nothing...
Therefore Creation predates any and all evolution...
That would be dangerous. It would upset the applecart of dogma that keeps them in lockstep with people like Ham.
Religion and science can get along just fine together as long as everyone understands that the end games are very different.
Maybe after all it is nothing more than arrogance, because the crown of creation turns out to be just an ape?
As a former creationist myself I am no stranger to this sort of smug attitude and at one point could have caught myself doing much the same thing, raising questions about evolution that were then answered but letting my eyes glaze over and not a drop of information get in when that information was provided only to preserve my ability to say, “Well that doesn't prove ANYTHING!”