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originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: beezzer
I will correct myself.
I will do a rare thing and state that I was wrong on ATS.
The US military DOES illustrate socialism.
There.
Mea Culpa.
Thank you for your honesty.
That being said, do we not hold our military in high regard for the things it can accomplish? Could it be, with the right mix of different ideologies, that socialism could play an important role in what we can do?
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: beezzer
I will correct myself.
I will do a rare thing and state that I was wrong on ATS.
The US military DOES illustrate socialism.
There.
Mea Culpa.
Thank you for your honesty.
That being said, do we not hold our military in high regard for the things it can accomplish? Could it be, with the right mix of different ideologies, that socialism could play an important role in what we can do?
Some people do, but I haven't seen much regard from the left.
With the right mix of ideologies, socialism would not be socialism.
Correct. It would be a hybrid. I'll let you call it whatever you want. But the principles behind socialism would still be in play, as they are today.
I call socialism a failed, bankrupt ideology. I have no interest in hybridization.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
I am a socialist and I know full well about socialism. What you are portraying is the ultimate extreme. I don;t agree with that whatsoever.
You don't have to agree with the extremes to believe in the basic principles of socialism.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: beezzer
I will correct myself.
I will do a rare thing and state that I was wrong on ATS.
The US military DOES illustrate socialism.
There.
Mea Culpa.
Thank you for your honesty.
That being said, do we not hold our military in high regard for the things it can accomplish? Could it be, with the right mix of different ideologies, that socialism could play an important role in what we can do?
Some people do, but I haven't seen much regard from the left.
With the right mix of ideologies, socialism would not be socialism.
Correct. It would be a hybrid. I'll let you call it whatever you want. But the principles behind socialism would still be in play, as they are today.
I call socialism a failed, bankrupt ideology. I have no interest in hybridization.
It's already partially a hybrid in the US. I'd simply like a bit more. You can't escape socialism. It's at the very root of human existence.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: beezzer
I will correct myself.
I will do a rare thing and state that I was wrong on ATS.
The US military DOES illustrate socialism.
There.
Mea Culpa.
Thank you for your honesty.
That being said, do we not hold our military in high regard for the things it can accomplish? Could it be, with the right mix of different ideologies, that socialism could play an important role in what we can do?
Some people do, but I haven't seen much regard from the left.
With the right mix of ideologies, socialism would not be socialism.
Correct. It would be a hybrid. I'll let you call it whatever you want. But the principles behind socialism would still be in play, as they are today.
I call socialism a failed, bankrupt ideology. I have no interest in hybridization.
It's already partially a hybrid in the US. I'd simply like a bit more. You can't escape socialism. It's at the very root of human existence.
And it's a failure where it is being practiced. It is not at the root of human existence, because we haven't gone extinct yet.
originally posted by: gladtobehere
This lame duck, do nothing, career politician has been in Congress since 1990.
Hes a self-described "democratic socialist".
For some odd reason, hes now getting a lot of positive attention (especially on ATS) but I'm not sure why.
Sanders is a typical socialist who wants the government to confiscate more of my hard earned money so it can be redistributed in the form of illegitimate social programs like Obamacare.
He's flip-flopped on the 2nd Amendment mainly because the constituents in his home state are pro-2A, its the only way he could get their support to ensure a win.
He initially seemed like an ally with regards to the Pauls' Federal Reserve bill but he flaked on that too.
Ron Paul says Bernie Sanders 'sold out' on Fed amendment.
I could go on but I think you guys get the point.
Dont get me wrong, if you support big government, anti-gun, socialist liberals, hes your man.
Speaking on behalf of everyone else, no thank you.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
So the police are a failure? The military? The fire department?
How about the roads you drive on and the public works that make sure your water is clean?
You're welcome.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
So the police are a failure? The military? The fire department?
How about the roads you drive on and the public works that make sure your water is clean?
You're welcome.
I wonder what your position is on the current spate of police brutality threads?
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
So the police are a failure? The military? The fire department?
How about the roads you drive on and the public works that make sure your water is clean?
You're welcome.
I wonder what your position is on the current spate of police brutality threads?
There is blame to go all around. The police are too aggressive and the people are disrespectful at times.
Not sure how that is applicable, though.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
So the police are a failure? The military? The fire department?
How about the roads you drive on and the public works that make sure your water is clean?
You're welcome.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: introvert
The massive government debt is the problem.
Yes it is. Isn't it telling that we can't blame that on socialism? That has become the problem child of out-of-control fascist capitalism.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: xuenchen
This gov't is so out of control with debt and poor money management, while being focused on war, I doubt anyone could get this straightened out in 4 years or even 8 years.
We're in so much trouble, our hole is so deep there's probably no solution to getting out. The best we can hope for is an administration that does it best to work on solutions instead of adding to the on going problems. But this is DC and the Red v Blue is always going to screw it up for everyone no matter whose in the oval office.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Teikiatsu
So the police are a failure? The military? The fire department?
How about the roads you drive on and the public works that make sure your water is clean?
You're welcome.
I wonder what your position is on the current spate of police brutality threads?
There is blame to go all around. The police are too aggressive and the people are disrespectful at times.
Not sure how that is applicable, though.
Police states are wonderful examples of socialism. I agree.
But the one question I can't seem to get an answer for is if we implemented certain aspects of socialism such as providing basic needs for all what will those receiving beneifits give up?
Police and roads ok, but in that form of socialism see the benefits.
In each instance some one is providing something or giving something up
They can see a return.