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If you were granted the Secrets for the kingdom of Heaven - What would you do?

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posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 03:34 AM
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a reply to: yulka

Secrets of Heaven you say? errm... doesn't even matter.




posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 03:48 AM
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originally posted by: yulka
So my question is as above, if you were granted the secrets to heaven. What would you do?


Uh, could you elaborate the OP? Remember, there are a lot of people here on ATS who have different spiritual and/or religious backgrounds. So our interpretation of Heaven can be very different from what you're implying. Anyway, I read your question as possibly being either of these 2:

1. "If you were taught everything necessary to get into Heaven, what would you do?"

2. "Suppose you were taught all of the secrets that exist in Heaven. What would you do after that?"

For #1, I would teach them to the world as best I could. I'm kind of doing that already IRL, though I'm failing miserably.

For #2, I dunno. Depends on what the secrets are. The truth could be so vast & amazing that I would forget all about Earth & our insignificant problems here.
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posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: yulka
So my question is as above, if you were granted the secrets to heaven. What would you do?

Heaven will reveal itself when there is an absence of me (identification). If there is identification there is conflict - which is hell.
Thinking that Heaven is somewhere else is a conflict in itself because there is a belief in other.
There is just this - that IS.
What is happening is just happening and it is not happening to someone - that someone that is assumed that life is happening to, has to be seen through in order to realize heaven.
Until it is realized that there is no separate you that can do anything, heaven will not be revealed.

Life feels like hell when there is the belief in the separate self that can do.
Life feels like heaven when it is realized that life is just happening and there is no separate doers.
Life is happening now - ever presently as this - no one is doing now.


I wouldn't do anything because 'I' is just a thought that says it can do something.
The secret of heaven is it is the ever present space in which everything arises and subsides.


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posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 04:52 AM
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originally posted by: nonjudgementalist
a reply to: chewi
You typed and words came out but all I read was was gibberish.

Drugs are bad. Avoid them at all costs. Especially the chewy ones.



Guten Morgen- May Siddhartha forgive Me, but that read very judgemental...

namaste



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium

It was honest. Sorry sometimes a spade is a space.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 05:18 AM
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originally posted by: yulka
So my question is as above, if you were granted the secrets to heaven. What would you do?


I'd post them all in Skunkworks - buy popcorn and sit back and watch the fireworks.



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posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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bring on armageddon



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 08:13 AM
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That depends, if I would be omnipotent after I'd leave Earth to its fate.

If God was upset about it, I'd blackmail him.

Maybe take over hell with the knowledge, always wanted a vacation house in hell.

Might have to let Satan in on the whole secret thing, then maybe he and God could get along and everyone could live in bliss.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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I don't know what I would do because I DON'T know the secrets of the heavens to make an informed decision on what should/could/would be done.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: nonjudgementalist


No worries on My end and You certainly don't owe Me (the "other You") an apology. Full respect given to Dr. Freud but sometimes that cigar is 'just' a cigar and that spade is a shovel.

••• This of course is Me ass/u/Meing that You meant to type 'a spade is a spade'? And only when the atoms are 'together' does that spade take up 'space' Then if that is the case, We could delve into a discussion re: the whole 'time/space' question authored by the real smart cat in My avatar, Alfred Epstein...


To wit: It is Me that should apologize to You. It wasn't directed towards Me and even if it were, it had no bearing on the original query. My apologies for sticking My nose in other Bee's wax..

To the OP- The Tao that can be typed is NOT the Eternal Tao.

When You're "done here" You get to either 'move on' or 're-boot'. Who is Your most harshest 'judge'? The answer to this question will be revealed at the end of the game. Do You have any memories of Your last 'game'? The reason I ask this is: You 'may' already have enough "credits" from prior games that You're closer than You think You are?
You ARE going to Church™ today right?

We ALL go back from 'whence We came' The One Infinite Creator aka The OIC or The One In Charge. Hunab Ku, who resides in The Octave.. How sure am I? I'll remind You when We are both 'backstage'...

Learn, Teach and Have Fun. Anything more than that and You're overworking the program.

namaste



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium

I feel the same way as you and have for some time now. It is not that I know this but that I feel it which is better than knowing. It means you are connected and aware of it as we are all connected and ultimately form the same place.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 10:17 AM
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When virtues are the same, the dogma doesnt change. Put faith in the concept, and you have religion. The name behind it is just ideals being taught.

Consider yourself a atheist, a man of science and i can prove you that you live in the same bubble as a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or which ever category you prefer.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: LittleByLittle

If humans live in a world of wonders, see it like this, when good and evil stops. When you can see the strings of time, and you play a tone, and you see hell breaks lose, just cause you wanted to see the rip and curls, just cause of you wanting to see the effects. When you learn that logics only works when simple laws are in motion. The logics we learn is for the illusion of this world. When you learn you cant play the strings like a banjo, you have to caress every tone gently until it becomes a sound everyone can accept.

I dont know if i made any sense



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 10:29 AM
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The truth could and would destroy everything that you know. If a heaven was created on earth, and the only way you could live in it very happily is to force the cardinal virtues.

Not into heaven, learn every aspect of how heaven works.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

You dont have to do anything



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 01:38 PM
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Sometimes the most gentle music can be a foreplay to a chorus that is anything but gentle. With logic some soul can sometimes see the chorus ahead of time point out that it is coming and watch themselves being ignored by those who think the tune they have chosen is only gentle. Following the string seeing the whole pattern.

Logic might be an illusion of this world for you. But from my spiritual experience the logic on this level is a subset of a logic on the higher levels.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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Logic is truth, depends on which world you placed the logics in. We create the other levels, they dont exist. We create the fourth dimension for the sole reason of killing and enslaving.

Since you seem to know a little about gnostics, when you have a spiritual walk, you balance the pendulum, every day you learn not to swing it to high. You balance it perfectly, until you find that little keyhole of inner peace.

If someone was to master full swing of motion and still get through the keyhole by counter balance, there is nothing but destruction.

Its a lock, you have a key, shaky hands wont open it. But if you learn how to break every door, without using a key, you arent held back of true knowledge cause you dont need the keys anymore.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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I almost died when I was young, woke up three weeks later with amnesia ( I was in a coma) and have on recollection of three weeks. My sister was about 7 and had a high fever of 106 or 107. She was delirious and talking in her sleep. She said," they want me to go to the light" my mom was by her side and said," no stay away from the light". We went to church and my sister said," that was the light" and pointed to Jesus on the cross . She was young and innocent and I don't think she was lying.

I like reading about near death experiences. With my own life I am afraid to die cause it felt like I was sleeping a hundred years and I used to think what if you just go to sleep? So I look at life on Earth as Heaven. I am still alive and here. Every day I am really happy to not be in a wheelchair like when I first woke up. Overjoyed and I try not to take little things for granted. Just every day realizing how lucky I am to be here and maybe this is .....Heaven. Or our own paradise. Or what was the city called in the Matrix, gods last paradise ...Zion.

I would try to live every day to happiest and share my happiness with others. Some see life as hell and try to show people life is what you make it.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: yulka
So my question is as above, if you were granted the secrets to heaven. What would you do?
I would offer them to ATS in exchange for a total ban on two sentence OP's.
Heaven to me is a world where people put a bit of effort into an OP and perhaps share some opinion themselves, but hey.



posted on Aug, 23 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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____So my question is as above, if you were granted the secrets to heaven. What would you do? ____
shortly:
killing myself



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