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originally posted by: anton74
OK, but I don't see a connection between the results you mentioned above and "spraying stuff from aircraft".
How have they determined that the substances they are testing for came primarily from aircraft spraying and not from terrestrial forms of pollution, such as industrial emissions?
Marvin J. Herndon is the connection. He's a believer.
I have lived in the same house since 1977 and viewed
the same area of the sky nearly every day. After the
morning marine layer burns off, the sky in San Diego,
California, USA, has been often cloudless; rain is infrequent
here. The air is warm and dry, not at all conducive
for the formation of ice crystals from high-altitude jet
aircraft exhaust. Since the spring of 2014, I observed that
the common occurrence of toxic geoengineering trails
in the lower atmosphere (troposphere), which mixes with
the air we breathe, was increasing in frequency.[/b
originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: payt69
And what's that bit before the bolded part of the quote about the air being "warm and dry and not at all conducive" to contrail formation?
Really?
And this guy is a "scientist"?
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
PlanetX and Connectthedots..Dane is proven liar. Not suspected, but PROVEN.
Simple question....why do you keep believing him? You guys go on and on about being "awake" and pretend to be clued up and alert to lies but you keep pushing a known liars agenda. He has lied to you. Over and over again. We have proved it to you.
Please please tell me why you keep believing him. I genuinely need to know. Because it makes no sense
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
PlanetX and Connectthedots..Dane is proven liar. Not suspected, but PROVEN.
Simple question....why do you keep believing him? You guys go on and on about being "awake" and pretend to be clued up and alert to lies but you keep pushing a known liars agenda. He has lied to you. Over and over again. We have proved it to you.
Please please tell me why you keep believing him. I genuinely need to know. Because it makes no sense
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
Thousand of scientists and politicians and millions of people from around the world are concerned about this phenomenon and only a small slice have ever heard of this "Dane" person.
I need to know why you keep believing in logical fallacies.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
PlanetX and Connectthedots..Dane is proven liar. Not suspected, but PROVEN.
Simple question....why do you keep believing him? You guys go on and on about being "awake" and pretend to be clued up and alert to lies but you keep pushing a known liars agenda. He has lied to you. Over and over again. We have proved it to you.
Please please tell me why you keep believing him. I genuinely need to know. Because it makes no sense
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
Thousand of scientists and politicians and millions of people from around the world are concerned about this phenomenon and only a small slice have ever heard of this "Dane" person.
I need to know why you keep believing in logical fallacies.
Can you show me just a couple of these "thousands of scientists" who believe in chemtrails?
originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: payt69
And what's that bit before the bolded part of the quote about the air being "warm and dry and not at all conducive" to contrail formation?
Really?
And this guy is a "scientist"?
Thousand of scientists and politicians and millions of people from around the world are concerned about this phenomenon and only a small slice have ever heard of this "Dane" person.
.
originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE
Just because you imagine something is happening,doesn't mean it really is. Genuine scientists, like genuine pilots and meteorologists, find chemtrails utter nonsense believed in only by tin foil hat wearing idiots. At least, that is my experience every time I bring the subject of chemtrails up.
I've never yet had a single professional person in any of these fields show anything but utter contempt for the topic.
ETA - you link to claims on chemtrail websites (agenda obvious) many of which are about geoengineering and other subjects that aren't chemtrails. I'm talking about my own experience talking to real people.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
PlanetX and Connectthedots..Dane is proven liar. Not suspected, but PROVEN.
Simple question....why do you keep believing him? You guys go on and on about being "awake" and pretend to be clued up and alert to lies but you keep pushing a known liars agenda. He has lied to you. Over and over again. We have proved it to you.
Please please tell me why you keep believing him. I genuinely need to know. Because it makes no sense
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
Thousand of scientists and politicians and millions of people from around the world are concerned about this phenomenon and only a small slice have ever heard of this "Dane" person.
I need to know why you keep believing in logical fallacies.
Can you show me just a couple of these "thousands of scientists" who believe in chemtrails?
What, you're kidding me right?
Do you think all these people who are writing papers, trying to do atmospheric studies, attending chemtrail conferences have nothing better to do with their time? They certainly are not making any money on it........
Or for you to accept something does it have to be acknowledged by the MSM and/or government?
Here is a list of articles, studies, some conducted by scientists and some non-scientists:
chemtrail articles
Here is another list of articles, some from scientists some not, including much lab analysis:
Chemtrail studies and lab analysis
Here is an ex-premier of British Columbia, is he whacky?
BC ex-premier on chemtrails
Here are some scientists and a bunch of academic references at the bottom of the article:
Scientists on chemtrails
ex-NASA scientist on chemtrails
More scientists on chemtrails
More scientists on chemtrails again.......
Again more scientists on chemtrails
That was just after a simple search on Google using the terms "scientists" and "chemtrails". You can do this for any developed country on earth and find similar results.
This might be difficult for you, but you are not always going to hear the truth from the Mainstream Media (MSM) - which is corporate controlled - or the government.
“The phenomenon occurs when aircraft fly above 25,000ft, where the air temperature is around minus 30C. This causes water vapour emitted by the engines to crystallise and form the familiar white streaks across the sky, known as contrails,” writes Oliver Tree for the Daily Mail.
“Reading University’s Professor Keith Shine, an expert in clouds, said that those formed by aircraft fumes could linger ‘for hours’, depriving those areas under busy flight paths, such as London and the Home Counties, of summer sunshine.”
NASA Expert: Chemtrails Are Real and Rogue Geoengineers Could Blackmail Earth
A NASA expert has warned that geoengineering is inevitable and mad scientists controlling the weather could use the technology to blackmail the planet.
Droughts, famine, chemtrails and the global game of risk: geoengineering is real, and inevitable part of the future, when science tries to orchestrate nature in the name of taming climate change, while experts argue over who will make the rules in the global governance of weather modification and geoengineering.
Could a rogue billionaire tinker with the delicate balance of our Earth? Might a mad scientist even “weaponize” weather control to wield power over the planet? Who calls the shots, and who watchers the modifiers?
Everything is possible, warns Riley Duren, Chief Systems Engineer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Labs. Chemtrails and geoengineering are no longer the things of conspiratorial speculation or retro science fiction – they are the scenarios shaping the world to come as science contemplates how far is too far for man to go in the name of a global environmental crisis?
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
PlanetX and Connectthedots..Dane is proven liar. Not suspected, but PROVEN.
Simple question....why do you keep believing him? You guys go on and on about being "awake" and pretend to be clued up and alert to lies but you keep pushing a known liars agenda. He has lied to you. Over and over again. We have proved it to you.
Please please tell me why you keep believing him. I genuinely need to know. Because it makes no sense
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
Thousand of scientists and politicians and millions of people from around the world are concerned about this phenomenon and only a small slice have ever heard of this "Dane" person.
I need to know why you keep believing in logical fallacies.
Can you show me just a couple of these "thousands of scientists" who believe in chemtrails?
What, you're kidding me right?
Do you think all these people who are writing papers, trying to do atmospheric studies, attending chemtrail conferences have nothing better to do with their time? They certainly are not making any money on it........
Or for you to accept something does it have to be acknowledged by the MSM and/or government?
Here is a list of articles, studies, some conducted by scientists and some non-scientists:
chemtrail articles
Here is another list of articles, some from scientists some not, including much lab analysis:
Chemtrail studies and lab analysis
Here is an ex-premier of British Columbia, is he whacky?
BC ex-premier on chemtrails
Here are some scientists and a bunch of academic references at the bottom of the article:
Scientists on chemtrails
ex-NASA scientist on chemtrails
More scientists on chemtrails
More scientists on chemtrails again.......
Again more scientists on chemtrails
That was just after a simple search on Google using the terms "scientists" and "chemtrails". You can do this for any developed country on earth and find similar results.
This might be difficult for you, but you are not always going to hear the truth from the Mainstream Media (MSM) - which is corporate controlled - or the government.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
Geo-engineering is an umbrella term for deliberate climate intervention that includes spraying the sky with aerosols to reflect solar radiation away from Earth in order to cool the planet and to save the environment and humanity from the effects of supposedly man-made global warming.
There is evidence that this program has already been implemented for many years using unidentified chemical aerosols, known as chemtrails.
'Scientists now admit that emissions from aircraft are forming artificial clouds that block out the sun, precisely what geoengineering advocates like top eugenicist and White House science advisor John P. Holdren have called for, but the article tries to insinuate that the effect is caused by natural “vapours,” when in reality it can be attributed to chemtrails that contain substances harmful to humans'.
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
The term "Chemtrails" was originated by the USAF Academy in circa 1990 as the title of a chemistry course. The content of the book "chemtrails" is consistent with what we now know is the applied technology used in advanced and covert climate modification systems and sold to the public as "climate change" - or previously "global warming".
www.youtube.com...
originally posted by: ConnectDots
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
It is nothing to do with Dane and to use that as the crux of your argument is just the usual ad hominem logical fallacy.
If we ever get to the point that those fallacies are the exception rather than the rule, maybe we can have a productive discussion and then begin to focus on solutions.
Hope springs eternal.
originally posted by: ConnectDots
originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
The YouTuber for the video has this on the About page for the channel:
The term "Chemtrails" was originated by the USAF Academy in circa 1990 as the title of a chemistry course. The content of the book "chemtrails" is consistent with what we now know is the applied technology used in advanced and covert climate modification systems and sold to the public as "climate change" - or previously "global warming".
www.youtube.com...
I'm not sure what he means by the phrase "content of the book 'chemtrails.'"