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originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: Hombre
You think God is not capable of erasing itself and ending its miserable unending self ??
You are wrong, it did long ago, and all the parts are still trying to put themselves back together, but they get farther from that goal every single day.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
Um but what if you're a masochist?
While it's obvious there is no "I" we still cannot disregard free will. We still need to pretend to make decisions all the while knowing it's just a tool.
Anyway, it seems your saying that once you awaken, you see that the only way for the world to change is through changing it's roots. And that can only be done when people are aware enough to questions their core beliefs. Ok, makes sense. But does this imply, that even IF donations did go to the right place, they still wouldn't help, because they would not help the root but rather the surface? So would donations even help even if they were send to the right places? If you for example, had a lot of money like OSHO, would you choose to help poor people? If yes then why? Wouldn't that only help the surface issues? Do the surface issues really matter? Should we completely forget about changing the surface?
Anyway, it seems your saying that once you awaken, you see that the only way for the world to change is through changing it's roots. And that can only be done when people are aware enough to questions their core beliefs.
originally posted by: buddha
So we can blame god! yes...
he gave us free will?
then sabotages us with Satan!
and if we Dont do exactly as he whants
we go to hell.
yes sounds like some one to spend forever with.
originally posted by: Andy1144
a reply to: Itisnowagain
Yes, I agree there is no I to make decisions no matter what. Life is just happening. However we cannot deny the appearance of free will in our experience and usefulness of it. I think you know what I mean here.
Yes I did.
Did you create an account called "firesheep" in philosophy forums?
Yes, that does make sense. I have thought about this before. Helping those that have no money is like prolonging their pain for a short amount of time isn't it? So it's all about the root causes it seems. So how can a person be of greatest service to the world AFTER he has awakened and helped himself? This is the thing. Must one spread the truth? This is confusing because some awake people say "spread the truth, it's the only way to help yourselves and the only way to create a utopia on earth"
And they do it relentlessly, spreading "truthcontest.com" all over the internet. Don't know if you heard of it.
Others seem to be saying completely different things. They say "No, just relax, one musn't spread the truth. Can you shed some light on this? Do you have the urge to spread the truth for the benefit of mankind and yourself?
I just wanted to add that even if there is an appearance of free will and the usefulness of it there is still no one exploiting them.
Thoughts are necessary to take action.
Thoughts arise but you seem to be saying that there is a me that does that thinking - there isn't. It is all just scenery - all is just appearing here - all of the show.
originally posted by: Andy1144
I'm sure you still think about things like what the best choice is for you to make out of the list of options.
This mind body unit needs it to function. If we all denied duality (thoughts and stories) we would do nothing all day. The urge and thoughts to do something are all dualistic and we cannot deny them.