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Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

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posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 03:48 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

Adolf Hitler


Just had to say his name to reassure yourself?

Try to withhold your admiration.




posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:01 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

Adolf Hitler


Just had to say his name to reassure yourself?

Try to withhold your admiration.


If I remember correctly, your question was "what is your source for Sanger's influence on Hitler".



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:04 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

Yes, and you said Adolf HItler.

I had to assume that you just needed to type his name.

Because surely, if you had any dignity, you'd back up your claim with facts or a quote.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

Adolf Hitler

Edit to add: and you deleted your original comment, classy.

I will have to remember to quote you.

Touché


LOL, like I stated previously, I'm learning from you.

Also, recall the phrase "guttersnipe hypocrisy."



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:06 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not doing your research for you.
edit on 29-8-2015 by greencmp because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not doing your research for you.


So, you have nothing then. You made a spurious claim, got called on it, and now you're trying to weasel.

Par for the course.

It is also said that Hitler enjoyed Micky Mouse ... I'm sure in your mind that indicates that Disney (a known anti-semite) was responsible for the Holocaust.

You're only tangentially bothered by the facts, after all.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not doing your research for you.


So, you have nothing then. You made a spurious claim, got called on it, and now you're trying to weasel.

Par for the course.

It is also said that Hitler enjoyed Micky Mouse ... I'm sure in your mind that indicates that Disney (a known anti-semite) was responsible for the Holocaust.

You're only tangentially bothered by the facts, after all.


I'm still not typing into an open window on your browser, that's your job.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: greencmp

You know you posted a blatant lie.

I know you posted a blatant lie.

Everyone reading this, except brainwashed zealots like yourself, also knows this.

Continue to show your true colors, though.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:17 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: greencmp

You know you posted a blatant lie.

I know you posted a blatant lie.

Everyone reading this, except brainwashed zealots like yourself, also knows this.

Continue to show your true colors, though.


Your accusations constitute libel.

You are wrong and responsible for your abhorrent behavior.
edit on 29-8-2015 by greencmp because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: greencmp

You know you posted a blatant lie.

I know you posted a blatant lie.

Everyone reading this, except brainwashed zealots like yourself, also knows this.

Continue to show your true colors, though.


Your accusations constitute libel.

You are wrong and responsible for your abhorrent behavior.


Prove it. Quote Hitler's praise of Margaret Sanger.

(Protip: you're only making yourself look more and more foolish.)



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 04:29 AM
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Here, I'll help you ... you're looking pretty pathetic.

I did go to Google, and I did type in Adolf Hitler Margaret Sanger, here's 59,800 hits.

You'll find, first of all, the article I linked from Margaret Sanger condemning Hitler while Britain and France (and the US) were still contemplating that he was an okay guy. Sanger condemned HItler while the West was still helping him rebuild the Wehrmacht.

Then you'll find a lot of right-wing anti-choice sites that are propagating the same nonsense you tried to.

I realize you just quoted the lies you had read, but, even in The Pit, you need to be more attentive to even repeated lies and deceit.

Or you get called on it and look like a fool.
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posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: greencmp

Well Semicollegiate's answer was that he would have a hard time finding work and a place to live.

I didn't think that that answered the original question and it definitly didn't sound realistic.

Just to keep things clear the question was about AC, not minarchy or US with re-enacted Constitution.


I was thinking of crime in general and how there is always a special case.

The serial killer should be repaying several families. One death for several deaths sounds a bit light.

The choices for punishment would be local, because there would be no higher authority.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:34 AM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
No, in AC a criminal has to work off his crime, like paying a mortgage. No prisons. Although some boarding houses might specialize in criminals that no one else will rent to.

Suppose someone in AC gets hold of a nuke.

How do you deal with him?


Having it and using it is no crime as long as it hurts no one else.

Killing non combatants and collateral damage is a war crime.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: greencmp



For instance, a pacifist might actually abhor the idea of punishing their assailant and freely dismiss all charges.


It's arbitrary. Some criminals may go free, others get worse punishments even death despite the same crimes being committed.


The basic idea is that a criminal would repay the victim rather than live at public expense. The punishments would suit the crime.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
The relationship between Right and Left isn't linear, it's circular. Both extreme ends meet back in the same place.


That means they are in the same place.

Consider the circle on a Cartesian graph.

Looking from bottom to top, both sides of the circle are the same in regards to the Y coordinate.

The Y coordinate is the basis of the OPs linear scale.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm not doing your research for you.

This is not how argument works.

If you make a claim, you provide a source.

Either at the onset of the claim, or when asked for it.

If you are unprepared and say to someone else that the should 'do their research' then you ought to be ignored. The only real exception to this is when you cannot hotlink to something but you still need to provide search terms and a specific thing to look-up.

Here, let me show you a 'do your research' elsewhere on this ATS:
Claim: Hansen wrote "hide the decline"
Request: reference for that claim (as far as I knew, it didn't exist; cursory search failed to find it)
Repeated request after getting ignored
Response: 'google it'
Rebuttal: I guess it doesn't exist; he's thinking of someone else and is wrong
Reply: he insists it exists and that I should google it
Rebuke: I want him to provide a reference to what he's talking about, because I can't find it
Fin: No further response, so I post the email he appears to think Hansen wrote
No further response to this... I guess it was embarrassing. People don't like to admit they are wrong.

I'm not saying you are; I haven't looked at it. However, do you really think a reply of 'google it' is the right approach?



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate


Having it and using it is no crime as long as it hurts no one else.


Any use of a nuclear weapon releases radioactive waste into the atmosphere. That harms the entire global ecosystem.


Killing non combatants and collateral damage is a war crime.


No, they're not. Deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime; causing collateral damage is inevitable, so it is not considered a war crime. Or do you intend to impose your own views on others through coercion?



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: Semicollegiate

originally posted by: FlyingFox
The relationship between Right and Left isn't linear, it's circular. Both extreme ends meet back in the same place.


That means they are in the same place.

Consider the circle on a Cartesian graph.

Looking from bottom to top, both sides of the circle are the same in regards to the Y coordinate.

The Y coordinate is the basis of the OPs linear scale.


So, "in the same place" means "in the same place"? Profound.

So now we're not talking about a line, we're talking about a single point at the apex of a circle.

Sorry, it's meaningless to say that two ends of a line segment are equal. [(x1,y1), (x2,y2), x1=x2, y1=y2]

That's not a line, that's a point.

OP's scale is a line, not a point.

Describing ALL human political systems on a line is simplistic and literally one-dimensional.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: Semicollegiate
Having it and using it is no crime as long as it hurts no one else.

Killing non combatants and collateral damage is a war crime.

What if he is suicidal / homicidal?

How do you track him down and stop him?

It seems as if you don't have the capacity to prevent a WMD attack. I'm also curious about 'war crime' in the context of AC.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: Greven

The "Hitler influenced Sanger" meme is insidious among the anti-choice zealots.

It's Godwin's Law written about as large as one can write it.




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