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Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

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posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen



The questions are tainted and one sided aren't they.


Afraid, are you?

It might surprise you.




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

You still haven't shown any clear evidence to support the "definition" of Fascism according to wiki.

We need to see the actual quotes from those books they refer to.



[ deducting another 1/2 point from the scorecard ]




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

I would move that line a bit more to the point where things are voluntary.

I'm just not seeing much difference in getting a detailed bill without really having a say in what it was spent on and just paying taxes.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So I guess you are afraid. Ok. 1 point off for you.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Why don't you just try the test? See if it is biased? If it places you in the right then it's not biased.

Come on it won't hurt you.




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen

Why don't you just try the test? See if it is biased? If it places you in the right then it's not biased.

Come on it won't hurt you.





The very first question kills the whole point. It's just like the wiki references !!

They automatically expect people to believe and obey.



If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.



end of transmission.

Please follow up on the wiki "sources", I would really love it if somebody can cough those up in full context




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Ah yes but Marx emphasized it 100%.

And all the Marxist governments endorse it wholeheartedly don't they.

Yeah but he stole the idea from Adam Smith:

The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.


An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

LOL you are so scared.

I guess I have no reason to talk to you further as you will not listen to us and you have already made up your mind.

Cheers.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

Doesn't matter if Marx got the ideas from somewhere else.

His (Marx's) endorsements are the generally accepted principals accepted by many scholars and intelligentsia types that believe in Marxism.

[ -1 point for tangent mongering ]



edit on Aug-28-2015 by xuenchen because: [nerves are shattering]



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen

LOL you are so scared.

I guess I have no reason to talk to you further as you will not listen to us and you have already made up your mind.

Cheers.



You really need to find those book sources.

Are you afraid they might discredit the stance of Fascism is "Right Wing" ?

I already know they will



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You are supposed to agree or disagree. Try it.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: xuenchen

You are supposed to agree or disagree. Try it.


The questions are to Authoritarian and Fascist.



Can you find those book sources from wiki?

We really need to find those in their entirety.

And I actually took the "test" a long time ago when a fun thread was talking about it.

I was on the lower right somewhere as I remember.

But nobody would believe me anyway !!


edit on Aug-28-2015 by xuenchen because: nerves



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen



I was on the lower right somewhere as I remember.


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY! Why was it so hard????

NOW! Does that mean that the questions are not biased?




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Doesn't matter if Marx got the ideas from somewhere else.

It matters if that source is the "father of classical liberalism".



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: xuenchen



I was on the lower right somewhere as I remember.


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY! Why was it so hard????

NOW! Does that mean that the questions are not biased?



I may have been biased if I misunderstood the questions.
************

*C'mon, find those books for us !!*

Your chance to prove your point is eroding away !!




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: xuenchen
Doesn't matter if Marx got the ideas from somewhere else.

It matters if that source is the "father of classical liberalism".


Well maybe Marx's Communism is actually an illusion ?

Perhaps that explains the hijacking.




posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Should we leave socialism behind for a few? Give the old gal a rest?

Here's the primary positions of the OP.

All political systems can be arranged in a one-dimensional dimensional representation with the political Left at one side and the political Right on the other.


Which means a very general outline.



Every political group, socio-economic group, and even individuals can be clearly identified and completely described by their position on, what is basically, a number-line.


You are the one splitting hairs. Command economy on the Left, Laissez-Faire on the Right.




The standard and historical definitions of right and left are ignored in favor of the irrational idea that Far Right = Anarchy and Far Left=Totalitarianism.


The bias of the standard Left definitions is the motivation for the graph.




Again, reducing the complexities of thousands of years of human history and hundreds of countries and political systems down to fit neatly, as defined by the author of the article, on a single line.


Again, it is a schematic outline. Like words aren't the things they invoke.



Fair enough? Moving on then.

Here's the blatant, low-hanging problems with all of that nonsense:

The idea that qualities of a single human much less countries, principalities, parties, powers, etc., can be reduced to a linear representation is patently absurd.


Unless Fascism is on the Right, then you are OK with it.



The concept that all of humanity can be described between the extremes of only two characteristics (any two) is beyond ridiculous.



Not a description, a ranking according to the power of the government. Let's say % of GDP purchased by the government or/and labor required by the government.



The belief that words have no real meaning and can therefore be used and shifted according to nothing more than personal preference or temporary agenda is ludicrous and insulting. This results in an impossibility of communication.


What did Liberal mean originally? Now it means the opposite, because of the word warping Left.




The arbitrary convenience of placing a multitude of people and ideas from centuries of human history on a single dimension is simply ignorant and without any scientific, logical or reasonable basis.


Socialism is based on putting everybody on a single line. Equality.

The Left typically accuses others of the atrocities it is committing at the time.

Get drafted for freedom.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: xuenchen
But don't debtor's prisons require government authority?

No.

I'm sure a private system would be used in an AC society.


No, in AC a criminal has to work off his crime, like paying a mortgage. No prisons. Although some boarding houses might specialize in criminals that no one else will rent to.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Well maybe Marx's Communism is actually an illusion ?

Perhaps that explains the hijacking.

Could be but since, according to you, all these similarities make fascism left then the same must apply to classical liberalism.

Maybe Semicollegiate is correct, everything is actually on the left.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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