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Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

That's a great point. Calling the Nationalist Socialist Party, Socialist, is like calling the Democratic Republic of the Congo a Republic. You should use quotations around those words.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

I don't care what they say, I see elements of fascism in the ultra-patriotic in Conservative media. How about the Conservative radio host who flat out demanded that we enslave illegal immigrants?


How about our current Vice President that flat out told a building full of black voters that republicans would put chains on them again if elected? They're one in the same except the media brushes off one, while chomping ravenously at the other. I wonder why?


Actually that's just fear mongering. It's not like Biden is saying that HE would put chains on them or anything.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: grandmakdw




Just stop trying to shut down those
who disagree with you by name calling
intimidation and bullying tactics.


You mean like calling the left Fascists? Libtards, bleeding hearts, sentimental fools, commies, etc.

and my all time favorite....

"people like you"


I mean saying things to purposely target
and destroy people lives
with great glee
and with great purpose.

Like the leader of global warming worshipers
who said that people who don't believe in
global worming should be killed

or like Al Gore who said everyone who
doesn't believe in global warming
should be put in jail.

or like the many people the LGBT
have hunted down to specifically
target and ruin their lives and livelihoods,
encouraging death threats by email
and vile and hateful emails

The liberal bullies who purposely
target people to make examples
of them for those who won't
think the same way they do,
and do their best to ruin their
lives and families and livelihoods
and gloat with great joy
when they destroy people



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Danke

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Danke

Except there is no laws about forcing people to do that.
We can disagree that practices are not good, but no one is forcing them to do it.


You can make claims that the mentality goes to both sides.


Well when the laws aren't there, the idea is to have trial by social media/MSM. That or people will be punished simply for not thinking a certain way or going along with what is PC.


Most call that exercising your First Amendment right.


I appreciate the reply, but seriously read that article...at least part of it. It isn't partisan in any way other than that it might scare the crap out of you and make you a bit depressed.


Since when did someone else's opinion force you to do anything?



See this is where the left gets confused. You see it as exercising your first amendment right only when it is going along with your current idea of what is correct. That is the whole problem here.

It isn't necessarily someone else's opinion forcing me or anyone else to do something. It is more of a harass, threaten, bully, or slander until you do what we want type of force.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

Sweet random chance ... do you READ what YOU write?

Give us a break. Your posts are among the rudest, most snide, and most hypocritical on this site.

And your posts are commonly RIDDLED with mistake, inaccuracies and good ol' fashioned lies.

Please note that these are descriptions of your POSTS, as I don't know YOU ... but you do not extend others the same courtesy.

Liberals and moderates post fact after fact, citation after citation in response to your attempts at pseudo-poetic expression.

Your posts are the ones that twist and turn everything to fit your own agenda, and when you can't, you make stuff up.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: Danke
See this is where the left gets confused. You see it as exercising for first amendment right only when it is going along with your current idea of what is correct. That is the whole problem here.


Uh... No... You being racist is exercising your first amendment right and I am exercising MY first amendment right to tell you that you are racist. At no point is the government involved with ANY of this nor has the government been involved in it.


It isn't necessarily someone else's opinion forcing me or anyone else to do something. It is more of a harass, threaten, bully, or slander until you do what we want type of force.


So? Deal with it. Just because you have the freedom to say whatever you want in the eyes of the government doesn't mean there aren't consequences from OTHER sources for you saying something inappropriate.

Conservatives talk day and night about personal responsibility and here you are whining because other people got mad at you for saying something offensive. I've said racist stuff before too, but no one from the government has come kicking down my door and arrested me. I got called out for it, my pride was hurt, and I lived and remained just as free as I am now.

Social Shamming is NOT a Freedom of Speech Issue

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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: xuenchen

So this just proves what I've been saying all along.

American Conservatives ( for the most part) are just dressed up liberals.

Sounds about right.

~Tenth


Actually not quite right.

Genuine Conservatives are not the same as high level Republicans that are Left of Center.

"Old" Liberalism maybe.




posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: grandmakdw

Well when you tell people to shut up and go cry in the corner and what ever other ad hom you can think of, what do you think that is trying to accomplish?
Does that really promote the discussion you say you want?

When you say racist and bigoted things, you should expect to be called so.
Not to say people don't take that to far and say it with no basis in reality, but to act as if things don't get said that are in fact racist or bigoted is sticking your head in the ground.


People do say bigoted and racist things, I won't deny it.

But also the leftists have been using those terms
to destroy people's lives on purpose when all
they were doing was speaking the truth.

When I speak the truth from now on;
like saying that black on black violence
is a much bigger problem for the black community
then the police, that is the truth. Black
youths are killing each other at a horrific rate
and no one dares speak of the real holocaust
going on in the black community of black
on black killing and violence. They call
anyone who points that out as a racist,
just for speaking the truth.

Until the left stops misusing those terms,
there will be people like me who fight back
and say enough is enough.

(BTW the binky was in response to your whambulance, thought it was rather clever actually)



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: grandmakdw




Just stop trying to shut down those
who disagree with you by name calling
intimidation and bullying tactics.


You mean like calling the left Fascists? Libtards, bleeding hearts, sentimental fools, commies, etc.

and my all time favorite....

"people like you"


Hmmmmmmm, seems that can be reflected upon those who feel that way by doing nothing more than looking in the mirror and being honest with oneself rather that marching in lock step with their religious/political beliefs?

Tit for tat?

NO COMPROMISE?

What does that lead too?

WAR!!!!!!

Bring it! That's why I love Trump! We are screwed with any other establishment crony, so I figure if I am going down anyways? I am so sick and tired of those of you who fight over corrupt men and women, that I am welcoming the end of humanity!

Suck it up cupcake! No one is perfect and it seems that those who support the very same corrupt criminals in our government world wide are the same ones doing the most bitching and dividing which is doing nothing more than helping those they hate get stronger!

Like you haven't "Poked the bear"? Like you have never made a derogatory comment towards someone of the opposing political/religious philosophy the opposite of yours?

Boo freaking hoo! Some one called you a name because of your political affiliation! Like you have NEVER IN YOUR LIFE, called someone a name or made fun of someone.............

Put on your big girl/big boy panties and grow up!


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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw

or like the many people the LGBT
have hunted down to specifically
target and ruin their lives and livelihoods,
encouraging death threats by email
and vile and hateful emails


First of all, you're lying again. Who the heck is "the LGBT" you're referring to?

The folks you're crying for have broken the laws of the land.

Second of all, talk to the Dixie Chicks if you want to see evidence of real death threats.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Gotta love the old No True Scotsman RINO argument. "Well THOSE guys aren't really Conservative!" Lol. They are your peeps. Stop trying to deny them and just accept them.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw


The liberal bullies who purposely
target people to make examples
of them for those who won't
think the same way they do,
and do their best to ruin their
lives and families and livelihoods
and gloat with great joy
when they destroy people


It's ironic isn't it?

What Conservatives did to 'progressives' for decades, you are now seeing the pendulum swim back. It's not fun when the other side has a bigger voice than you do is it?

I don't like it anymore than you do, but this tug and pull with progressives vs conservatives was long coming. It was always going to get worse before a happy medium was found.

For the record, I don't think you're any of the things liberals claim you to be. I may not agree with most of your stances on social issues, but we've found common ground on other things.

But Conservatives who wish to meddle in people's lives, are living a progressive lie, because real Conservatives would tell you it's none of their business and it didn't matter so long as they weren't hurting other people.

And had we all taken that stance with things like LGBT for example from the get go ( as many countries did ) then we would not have any of these problems.

 


@ Krazy



~Tenth
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

My point is a nobody talk show host says something on irrevelant talk show and everyone loses their minds, but our Vice President says something just as ignorant if not more so and everyone blows it off. The reason why people have compared this type of liberalism to fascism is because the people in the party can do no wrong, whilst the opposition is evicerated if they even think about having a different opinion. The media spins the view of the opposition as uneducated racists. While people in the presidents cabinet pull the same # without a blip on the radar.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
(BTW the binky was in response to your whambulance, thought it was rather clever actually)


Children. I'm dealing with children here. That's what the system has reduce a good portion of the US populous to. Whiny, petulant children. "MOM....Dave did it." Cripes. The far left and the far right are both screwing with you guys.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw




But also the leftists have been using those terms
to destroy people's lives on purpose when all
they were doing was speaking the truth.



Can you show me one?
Where some ones live was destroyed over speaking a truth, which is not an opinion.



When I speak the truth from now on;
like saying that black on black violence
is a much bigger problem for the black community
then the police, that is the truth. Black
youths are killing each other at a horrific rate
and no one dares speak of the real holocaust
going on in the black community of black
on black killing and violence. They call
anyone who points that out as a racist,
just for speaking the truth.


No they don't, the call you a racist when you say all black people are criminals and thugs based on that.
They call you racist when you say we shouldn't even care if a man gets shot by police because if the cops didn't do it some one on the street will, or that he would of gone on and killed all the bunnies and puppies in the city because he is a big bad animal.

People just like to confuse the two.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:40 PM
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I think it's better'to present this scheme as a snake biting his tail or a colour wheel. The comunists - red, the fascist for instance purple, then anarchy is blue and so on



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Go through any forum here.

Count the whining posts about being "mistreated and victimized."

When you find out that the vast majority are authored by Right Wingers and Christians, come back here and apologize if you have any dignity or pride in what you claim.

"Grow up" my left hind foot. What a joke! What are you crying about here?

"Boo hoo, I don't agree with anybody's politics because I'm a special little flower. I'm the only one that sees the truth!"

Give us a break. Put your own house in order first, then come back and presume to tell us what to do.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: avgguy

Well the thread isn't about Biden but if you want my opinion...... he's a pompous elitist. Care not for him one bit.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Danke
See this is where the left gets confused. You see it as exercising for first amendment right only when it is going along with your current idea of what is correct. That is the whole problem here.


Uh... No... You being racist is exercising your first amendment right and I am exercising MY first amendment right to tell you that you are racist. At no point is the government involved with ANY of this nor has the government been involved in it.


It isn't necessarily someone else's opinion forcing me or anyone else to do something. It is more of a harass, threaten, bully, or slander until you do what we want type of force.


So? Deal with it. Just because you have the freedom to say whatever you want in the eyes of the government doesn't mean there aren't consequences from OTHER sources for you saying something inappropriate.

Social Shamming is NOT a Freedom of Speech Issue


What are you talking about racist? What have I said that was racist?

It isn't the classic definition of the term fascist, I already said that at the start. There isn't one specific definition of fascism.

If you think you have freedom of speech you need to think again. You are only free to say what is currently politically correct. This has nothing to do with racism, sexism, or anything like that. This has to do with IDEAS, it has to do with people being bullied for speaking the truth.

If you read that article I posted it talks about how even liberal professors are scared of their liberal students. There is a movement going on where the people with the most free time to spam on social media are being rewarded and given the most attention. It shouldn't be that way. People are rushing to conclusions and thinking with emotion rather than logic and reason.

You need to get over yourself. Stop using your leftist lens on everybody. I have told you many times I am an independent. Just because I am going against the left you are calling me racist? Where did I say anything racist? You are doing the exact things I was trying to warn people about.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Sean has been telling us this for years,

Right = Everything Good, Left = Everything Bad. Simple, like Hannity.




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