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Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: introvert

OH, I know there's no reason to argue, Introvert. I really just use The Mud Pit as a place to blow off steam so that I can do my best to stay in the bounds of T&C on the rest of the site, LOL.

Ron White says it like this: "you can't fix stupid."

There I go again. Honestly, I don't think that any of our friends on the right or in the right middle or left top or parallel contingent side are "stupid." I just think that many Americans have been corrupted with the idea that belief is the same as fact, that opinion is just as good as understanding. They glorify anti-intellectualism and ignorance, because their Masters want it that way.

The funny thing to me is that real leftists hate governments, in general more than any tricorn-hat-wearing, Glenn-Beck- quoting Neo-McCarthyite-Tea Partier could ever imagine. The ONLY value of government to us is the good of the People.

You notice I didn't get an answer above as to whether the Left is a tool of "the devil" or not. What these folks really believe is that they are the only TRUE Americans that they have GOD on their side and they only have to wait until sweet Jesus comes back to set everything to right and put Ronnie Raygun in the Really White House forever and ever in the New Jerusalem.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

The existance of bigger governments is the result of Libertarian failures.



Interesting concept,

but I disagree.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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The existance of bigger governments is the result of Libertarian failures.


What, because laissez faire didn't take care of all the people cradle to grave???? mkay



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Communism was not ever meant to come from the state. It was meant to be small communities (communes). State Communism never materialized but was a concept born out of failure to implement Socialism peacefully. State Communism was meant to seize the State, level the playing field and then enact Socialism and then dissolve the State. No where on Earth did this ever happen. Once the State held all the property and power it cajoled it's toughest soldiers into being overseers of the means of production, overseers turned into owners and State Communism in turn became State Capitalism like we saw the the USSR and The People's Republic of China. Not many people today see State Communism as a path to Socialism.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Except you can't name any of them specifically ... not even one.


Some are right right here in illinois

Less dependent on county and state and federal laws and authorities.

Every State has some.





Do you understand the concept of specific?

Name one, don't Google.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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I can't even begin to guess what you are using as criteria to call "Anytown, USA" with a population of less than 1000 people some form of libertarian enclave.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Teikiatsu has noted on several occasions the number of stars their posts received, as some sort of proof.



I've done what? When? I hope you just confused me with someone else, otherwise you are just plain lying and slandering.

I've been here a whole week. If I've said such a thing it should be easy to find those 'several occasions.'



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Gryphon66






Because, you know, that's how Marx described the eventual socialist state as well.


He also described the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" which is the leadership of the proletariat gets to dictate to those greedy fat cat 1 per centers and deliberately dismiss them from decision making and power positions. Just sounds like sour grapes to me.


You couldn't be more wrong. Google it for god's sake. You're boring me to death.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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Well, if they hadn't failed they would be here wouldn't they?



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
What, because laissez faire didn't take care of all the people cradle to grave????

No, because it doesn't exist.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: xuenchen

I can't even begin to guess what you are using as criteria to call "Anytown, USA" with a population of less than 1000 people some form of libertarian enclave.



You should study it in depth.

Then make the comparisons.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

Libertarianism at any level is difficult to achieve because of the bigger governments, not because of Libertarian failures.



Name a libertarian society anywhere in the world at any time in history.

The closest you will come is present day Somalia, and perhaps, the Wild Wild West.

Both of which, while lawless and without central government control, still fail (or failed) to achieve the honky-dory utopia you speak of.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: xuenchen

Well, if they hadn't failed they would be here wouldn't they?


They are "here".

Thousands of them.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Some verified quotes from Marx might help people to understand.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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Study what in depth?

Your telling me that those people don't pay taxes or that, when the draft was in effect, if one of their kids was drafted they had to go or be considered a criminal?



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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If we apply your criteria but your criteria means nothing. It's just opinion.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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I just think that many Americans have been corrupted with the idea that belief is the same as fact, that opinion is just as good as understanding. They glorify anti-intellectualism and ignorance, because their Masters want it that way.


omg could I do something with that!!! How about for starters the leftist "fact" that Climate Science is "settled". Instead let's call this what it really is, Manufactured consensus for the purpose of installing a political dictate or agenda, that is taxation of resources for World Government and/or subsidizing those things which the political left deem important, such as developing alternative energy technology. Nowhere in their debate are they willing to confront the obvious conflict of interest with their other assorted and sundry issues such as animal rights....I mean Carly Fiorina rightly pointed out that Progressives are ignoring the millions of birds including protected species like the eagle flying into the blades of wind turbines. She also mentions how stretches of wind turbines mark up and occupy huge swaths of land. Ever drive by a large wind farm? There's a huge one in Kansas you can see from the highway. Oh and Senator Kennedy didn't want one in his playground.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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Somalia is a criminal semi-anarchy.

The government there is a result of failed big government shamble, not established Libertarian.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Kali74

Some verified quotes from Marx might help people to understand.



I believe everyone that is interested in governments and societies should read Marx. He was a very intelligent man with some great understanding.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: xuenchen

Study what in depth?

Your telling me that those people don't pay taxes or that, when the draft was in effect, if one of their kids was drafted they had to go or be considered a criminal?


That's why I said it is limited.

Taxes are higher in the bigger cities and counties.

The negative authoritarian impacts are much less.

Libertarians believe in taxes.



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