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Fascism Is Far Left, Not Far Right on Political Spectrum

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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

No need to answer or discuss then.

But I would place many or most rural towns in the center/right Libertarian slot, because the dependence on bigger government policies is less.





posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66



one little statement sets you off like that?

wheeew.

why all the violent argumentative atmosphere?

sounds like too much "Authoritarianism".



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I agree on much of that, but show me where the economic model of communism has anything to do with or being close to fascism.

Communism is a leftist theory and Fascism is a far right wing marriage of corporate and state. In a truly Leftist system, there wouldn't be a corporate structure at all. It would be ran by the state.

Why can't people grasp that?

I could ask why you cannot grasp the concept of relative levels or shades of something. Fascism comes out of the leftist ideology of Totalitarian State control. It is just that simple. It is odd how people are arguing that fascism allows freedom, and I ask you, if that were so, how come the SS went in and confiscated the wealth and property of the Jewish people and those who supported them? That doesn't sound like respect for private property to me. Did you know that the leftist billionaire socialist George Soros(Georgy Schwartz) confiscated the wealth of Jews for the Nazis in Hungary and in a fairly recent interview he stated he did not have any remorse whatsoever? The true evidence is before you and yet you willfully ignore it.
What you cannot seem to grasp and what I have been telling you is that Lenin and Marx admitted that socialism was a bridge to the more drastic communism. This is a matter of increments and fascism just married corporations to government. A truly right wing conservativism disallows that kind of control of the State in favor of a more laissez faire system. I ask you truly, why do leftists communists and socialists decry laissez faire? It is because they always favor a more Totalitarian society wherein they get to dictate all the terms from putting people in jail for not taking care of animals, to punishing people for not agreeing with such things as redefining marriage. The Left has a laundry list of all kinds of issues they demand society acquiesce to. Hitler himself was said to have espoused animal rights. Who do we see on the political spectrum doing that today? That's right it's the Left. Who are the ones demanding justice for chickens in poultry farms? That's right, it's the political left who think that eating meat is a luxury and Americans should be punished for it. That's one of the concepts of Agenda 21 by the way, which is also very leftist at present. Who is in the Club of Rome which is behind Agenda 21? Why it's people like Al Gore and Bill Gates, who want to tell us how much meat to eat, who want to control our personal water wells on private property, Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is involved heavily in the UN, and heavily involved in Common Core. It is an NGO. It is heavily Progressive and involved with depopulation and vaccines.
I rest my case.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
So that places Fascism a little bit to the Right of Communism and Socialism, and well to the Left of genuine Conservatism.

Doesn't matter, it isn't Communism or Socialism.

I know you have been here long enough to have seen the x/y graph which is better suited to plotting political positions.

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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Why thank you, no one's called me a child in quite sometime.

You charmer you.

Oh god. The Cleon Skousen book is what you're trotting out now? You do realize that was a propaganda piece written by a McCarthyite not a real Communist, right?

But, let's go with it as real for a moment.

Wow. You mean Communists also wanted equality and less government interference in our lives?

Imagine that.

That's not even "cultural Marxism." That's just good old fashioned 50s-60s American Communist paranoia.

You missed your mark once again.

When you're trying to play the "Cultural Marxism" card, you're supposed to use The Frankfurt School material. Do you need a link?

What an unmitigated idiot you prove yourself to be with every post!

Tell me, have you ever accomplished anything in your life comparable to Dr. Sagan?

You can choose whichever of your "many lives" you wish for this effort.
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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Gryphon66

No need to answer or discuss then.

But I would place many or most rural towns in the center/right Libertarian slot, because the dependence on bigger government policies is less.





Fine, if you don't want to deal with facts, we don't have to discuss anything.

What you'd actually find is that in most small towns, the richest locals are the ones who run/own the government, and usually run them as their own mini-satrapies. Well, you may have a point, many of them probably are right-wing, as I think of it.

I'm sure you'd put almost everything in America except the large urban centers as right-wing Xuenchen; that fits your agenda.
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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: xuenchen

Read the whole thing...


Ah yes.

All the "rejections" are not even close to creating anything genuinely Conservative.

Just puts it a little to the Right of everything it "rejects".

Unless of course we find things they shout as "rejections" are more like simple changes and "adjustments".




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66






You're butting in where you don't comprehend what you're talking about, YET again


Oh excuse me, I thought this thread was open to all members.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: xuenchen
So that places Fascism a little bit to the Right of Communism and Socialism, and well to the Left of genuine Conservatism.

Doesn't matter, it isn't Communism or Socialism.

I know you have been here long enough to have seen the x/y graph which is better suited to plotting political positions.


Correct.

But it's closer to those and further away from genuine Conservatism.

And solidly ultra-Authoritarian.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Fascism comes out of the leftist ideology of Totalitarian State control. It is just that simple.

That is the problem. Totalitarianism isn't exclusive to leftist ideology. That is why you can't grasp the concept that a right wing government can be totalitarian.

Someone lied to you when they told you right wing equals freedom. It is just that simple.
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posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You're butting in where you don't comprehend what you're talking about, YET again.

Teikiatsu has noted on several occasions the number of stars their posts received, as some sort of proof.

What were you saying earlier about being ignorant? Perhaps if you looked in the mirror, first.


Oh of course all I saw was you talking about the number of stars you were getting. .....



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Gryphon66






You're butting in where you don't comprehend what you're talking about, YET again


Oh excuse me, I thought this thread was open to all members.


Now you're going to whine and try to play victim? LOL

Did I say you can't post? Perhaps we should get your eyes checked, because apparently you don't read that well.

I let you know you were inserting your irritating trivial nonsense yet again into another situation that you had no understanding of.

Please if you're so interested in my blessing, post at will. You clearly demonstrate your abilities with every post.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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I think s lot of right wingers use cultural Marxism as a uniting theory about everything right wing conspiracy theorists hate about modern culture. Things like political correctness and feminism. It's actually rarely understood by those who use the term, it's just seen as something with the term Marxism attached to it to scare their right wing buddies. Anders breivik spoke a lot about it in his manifesto.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Fascism comes out of the leftist ideology of Totalitarian State control. It is just that simple.

That is the problem. Totalitarianism isn't exclusive to leftist ideology. That is why you can't grasp the concept that a right wing government can be totalitarian.

Someone lied to you when they told you right wing equals freedom. It is just that simple.


But genuine Conservatism has ultra-limited authoritarian/totalitarian agendas.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
But it's closer to those and further away from genuine Conservatism.

And solidly ultra-Authoritarian.

What is "genuine Conservatism"?

Why is that your reference point?



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Then again, you didn't read the post. At all. As usual.

Sorry you failed so miserably in your attempt to be snide.



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr

You might be describing the Left of Center American Republicans.




posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66
That'll be another characteristic of the right wing conspiracy theorist. A victim mentality, where everything from feminism to multi cultural society is seen as a threat to their existence



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I agree on much of that, but show me where the economic model of communism has anything to do with or being close to fascism.

Communism is a leftist theory and Fascism is a far right wing marriage of corporate and state. In a truly Leftist system, there wouldn't be a corporate structure at all. It would be ran by the state.

Why can't people grasp that?


I wonder how many times I have to post this before people will read and understand it... www.prisonplanet.com...



posted on Aug, 22 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: xuenchen
But it's closer to those and further away from genuine Conservatism.

And solidly ultra-Authoritarian.

What is "genuine Conservatism"?

Why is that your reference point?


Genuine Conservatism has ultra-limited authoritarian/totalitarian agendas.

Compare to the ultra-authoritarian/ultra-totalitarian agendas that manifest in most big governments.

Complete opposite with hardly any similarity.





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