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why not a Kasich-Rubio ticket?

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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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Hi,
I have been doing a lot of examination as of late, and I am somewhat confused as to why Mr. Kasich is not mentioned more often when it comes to a viable Presidential candidate. Is it name recognition? Lack of big money backing him? Or is it something more insidious? Do the media fear who and what he is, and purposely refuse to give him serious coverage?

I would think that the Democrats would fear a Kasich candidacy greatly. He is a moderate Republican in an important Midwestern swing state. He is fairly popular in that state, and has done a decent job running it. His brand of leadership could also translate to good showings in other similar states, such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. He's not afraid to speak his mind, and although he's no Bible thumper, his outward display of his Faith is enough to satisfy all but the most fervent of the Religious Right.

He is most likely to appeal most to centrist Independents and Democrats, while still being able to be suitable enough to vote for by supply side Republicans and even some Conservatives. You add Rubio to the ticket and you're possibly giving the GOP both Ohio and Florida while also offering some appeal to the growing Latino vote. So what gives? Why is this not mentioned more?




posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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I think you are on to something interesting here, especially given the geography and the demographics involved.

But I think you were spot on in your first paragraph... the big money and name recognition just isn't there.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: bobval

That makes a lot of sense, excerpt that the GOP isn't known for using good sense. Palin/McCain comes to mind....

And now with the Trump devotees shouting down the rest of the Republican candidates; it's nothing more than a political circus, media event...not an election.


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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: charolais

I keep asking myself if we have become such an ' entertain me ' society that if something doesn't jump out and grab us immediately we just disregard it. I can remember a show on AMC a few years ago called Rubicon. I thought it was intelligent, well done, and made you think. Alas, it was cancelled after a few episodes due to low ratings. One of the biggest knocks against it was that it didn't have enough action sequences to hold the viewer's attention. Is this now the state of politics as well?



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: bobval

Have you participated in any of the ATS political discussions? Compromise and logic is in very short supply in favor of
hyperbole, and off the wall ideology.

Join us in the mudpit sometime and get a true sampling of what American politics had devolved into.


Check this out.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

btw.....welcome
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Lol...I've examined the mud-pit forum and decided against participating in it. What's the point? And thanks



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: bobval

I'm in Ohio, I didn't like Kasich much before the first debate but I thought he did well there. He needs more good showings but at the moment I can say I would at least consider him.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: bobval
a reply to: olaru12

Lol...I've examined the mud-pit forum and decided against participating in it. What's the point? And thanks



Actually it is very entertaining! An insight into the cultural milieu that currently defines American society.

If you can't look at it from a humorous standpoint....it makes you very sad.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: bobval

Kasich is Jeb without Jeb's name.

I dislike Jeb for his RINO stance. Basically, the RINO side of the Republican party are what Democrats used to be before they become Bernie Sanders.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Ok, I'll bite. Explain why he's a RINO, in your opinion



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: bobval
a reply to: ketsuko

Ok, I'll bite. Explain why he's a RINO, in your opinion



Once upon a time, they used to stand for a limited, Constitutional Republic. Now they just think the real problem is who's in charge of the all-powerful behemoth Federal leviathan. It's not smaller government; it's smarter government.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: bobval

Someday you RINOs will understand the futility of voting in liberal democrats only because they run as Republicans.

Both kasich and Rubio are pro illegal immigrant. Not in my house.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: bobval
Hi,
I have been doing a lot of examination as of late, and I am somewhat confused as to why Mr. Kasich is not mentioned more often when it comes to a viable Presidential candidate. Is it name recognition? Lack of big money backing him? Or is it something more insidious? Do the media fear who and what he is, and purposely refuse to give him serious coverage?

I would think that the Democrats would fear a Kasich candidacy greatly. He is a moderate Republican in an important Midwestern swing state. He is fairly popular in that state, and has done a decent job running it. His brand of leadership could also translate to good showings in other similar states, such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. He's not afraid to speak his mind, and although he's no Bible thumper, his outward display of his Faith is enough to satisfy all but the most fervent of the Religious Right.

He is most likely to appeal most to centrist Independents and Democrats, while still being able to be suitable enough to vote for by supply side Republicans and even some Conservatives. You add Rubio to the ticket and you're possibly giving the GOP both Ohio and Florida while also offering some appeal to the growing Latino vote. So what gives? Why is this not mentioned more?



You have a good point. He does seem to have some good ideas and doesn't seem to be pandering to the far, far right or big corporations as much as some of the others.

Ultimately though, it's the same problem that Sanders on the left has, the media is ignoring him.

I don't think I would mind a Sanders vs Kasich general election.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Interesting. You posted some rehashed talking points without either showing how Kasich is either promoting unconstitutional policy or showing how he deserves the term RINO. Got it.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: bobval
Hi,

I have been doing a lot of examination as of late, and I am somewhat confused as to why Mr. Kasich is not mentioned more often when it comes to a viable Presidential candidate. Is it name recognition? Lack of big money backing him? Or is it something more insidious? Do the media fear who and what he is, and purposely refuse to give him serious coverage?



Kasich is as liberal a Republican as I have ever seen. He would tax the middle class and up to death... In other words, if the average conservative voter views Bernie Sanders with utter disdain and spite (which we do, his policies SUCK), why in the hell would we ever vote for Kasich? The GOP field is pretty disappointing this year, honestly. We've got a slew of unappologetic RINOs (Kasich, Christie, Trump) a high strung dude who is just too exciteable (Cruz), a guy who has maybe 50% of his prioritoes in the right place but is too fiscally liberal (Rubio), an untrustworthy so-called "libertarian" who has a history of ultimate capitulation under pressure (Paul), a guy with excellent ideas who gets no support from the media (Carson), Josh Brolin's stunt double (Perry), a man forever linked to anal sex punchlines (Santorum), and a dude I'd love to see win but who the media will scaremonger to the point that he'll galvanize the entitlement crowd into voting against him en masse (Walker.)

This election cycle looks like ass, frankly.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: bobval
a reply to: ketsuko

Interesting. You posted some rehashed talking points without either showing how Kasich is either promoting unconstitutional policy or showing how he deserves the term RINO. Got it.



Kasich stood on the debate stage and defended his expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare using theology. This is as liberal an argument as I've often heard the left make to try to shame those of us on the right into expanding entitlements.

"Oh, but how can good Christians be against caring for the poor?"

So, right there he's no different than any other big government type. The only difference is that he'll tell you that he's doing it in the name of God than just because he's all for compassion and making the rich pay their fair share. In the end, the result is the same - government grows and liberty lessens.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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Yeah, in an imaginary world where only a Republican could be President, I would definitely vote for Kasich before any of the others. And I'm a millenial hippie-type. He just seems like a genuine caring person, unlike every single other one of them.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Like I said before I would consider Kasich, but he also belongs in jail so I need a good reason to vote for him. Some of the biggest baggage Kasich has is that he's one of those bankers who took bailout money as a bonus, he took about a million dollars.
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posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Kasich stood on the debate stage and defended his expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare using theology. This is as liberal an argument as I've often heard the left make to try to shame those of us on the right into expanding entitlements.

"Oh, but how can good Christians be against caring for the poor?"

So, right there he's no different than any other big government type. The only difference is that he'll tell you that he's doing it in the name of God than just because he's all for compassion and making the rich pay their fair share. In the end, the result is the same - government grows and liberty lessens.


So you don't want to vote for him because his interpretation of God is different from yours. Got it.



posted on Aug, 21 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
So you don't want to vote for him because his interpretation of God is different from yours. Got it.


His interpretation of God conveniently costs people more money... mine does not. That's not a religious statement, it's a factual fiscal statement.



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