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originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
a reply to: Aazadan
I've heard people in my neighborhood talk about it openly and at length (they don't think I can understand Spanish)...cash aid and food stamps, they've even bragged openly about being put on the the section 8 list.
I've lived in the same place for over 10 years...and they have been getting this since they moved in, more than 5 years ago.
6 month cut off? They've obviously found to skirt the system. If they've done it, I'm all but certain more than just them know how to do this.
So, how do we fix this? Just because the price stamped on the produce or whatever the 'under the table' or 'cheap laborers' looks cheap, it's far more expensive just with the aid alone. Not to mention other tax-related benefits they've also given when putting nothing into the system. It's not a small number of people....it adds up quick.
Most likely they're getting cash aid because they have dependents, the welfare system in the US is mainly designed with the philosophy that we want children to have food and shelter. Cash aid is also seriously restricted, it's something like $125 per month, on top of the $100 they'll give you for food.
You mention they've been there for 5 years and you just see them around the neighborhood? That sounds to me like you have no idea what documentation they've provided. When you say you've seen it first hand you imply you've sat there in the office and seen what they give. You haven't, you're merely projecting your suspicions. Are you certain they're even illegal? If you are, why haven't they been deported? You've done your part and turned them in, right?
Also, do you know what else adds up quick? Food rotting in the fields that never makes it to market like what happened in Georgia and Florida when they tried to do something. It took just a couple months to nearly bankrupt their entire agriculture industry.
originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: introvert
And what a fine mess were in.
I hope you enjoy it. I for one do not.
originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: Hefficide
He could have said we will create work for them and pay them minimum wage and if they refuse we will stop giving them benefits, and I don't think anyone would disagree with that plan.
originally posted by: Aleister
If this law passes, and by God the South-of-Iowa shall rise again to make sure it does, then I will move to Des Moines, buy a plantation, put them to work in the fields, get myself a few illegals to work in the Big House (cook, butler, footman, nanny, and a guy to do windows), and sit on the porch to hear them sing happy songs about some chariot swinging low, or following the northern star or whatnot. Mammy, where's my slow gin tonic, be snappy now or it's back to the fields for you. Thank ya kindly.
originally posted by: smirkley
Illegals are already slaves. Except for illegal Canadians of course.
Lets see,... typically (but not in every case),...
1 - They are treated as lessers by the common citizens
2 - They typically work for cash
3 - Work jobs that generally citizens cant be bothered with
4 - Cant get insurance (unless a state mandates auto insurance, auto only)
5 - Don't get employment benefits
6 - Do not receive any government issued benefits
7 - Run the risk of deportation at any given moment
8 - Do not receive the same legal rights benefited to citizens
9 - They do have minimal emergency healthcare available - but most citizens whine about that
10 - They live a standard of living and in homes many citizens wouldn't accept as tolerable
Ya know, and I am being real here and not delicate but wish to be sensitive to all races, ...
If they were black and in the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s, and a good portion of the 1900s, they would be treated the same as the Hispanics are now in America.
AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE IT WORSE FOR THEM ??!!