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Cascadia Independence Movement - State of Mind or Future Nation State? What does ATS think?

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posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: JadeStar

Your OP says nothing of 100% of "cascadia" land was stolen from 100's of indigenous tribes from 1804 thru present day.

Are "cascadians" going to the Hague to answer for MASSIVE crimes against humanity?


Well they did name the Red Skins after them, come on what do you want




posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Simmderdown

To get out...



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar

Which is better - to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away or by three thousand tyrants one mile away?"

- Mather Byles

- also, many libertarians.


The answer of course is neither. And I've read Ayn Rand.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: Simmderdown
a reply to: Danke

They would have a hard time with Idaho, and eastern oregon anyway. WAY conservative


Political diversity is a Cascadian value. Those places have their own reasons they might want more autonomy.

There's more than enough room for more than one viewpoint.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar

Which is better - to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away or by three thousand tyrants one mile away?"

- Mather Byles

- also, many libertarians.


The answer of course is neither. And I've read Ayn Rand.


Exactly. So good luck convincing a bunch of folks to shuck the morons in DC, most of a continent away, for somebody else running things from an hour away.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Simmderdown

...and way fed up with Washington DC. Speaking as a lifetime eastern Washington resident.

I think you'd find that it'd be split fairly evenly for and against. Personally, I think it'd be slightly in favor in the next few years if things don't change.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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Since I'm basically evil (based on 5 years of replies here
) I want to become the Evil Dictator of Cascadia.

I can be an evil genius and have the population as my slave-army bent on world domination.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Simmderdown
Traitors! Bigots! how dare you want to leave the US!



If Texas is a bigot for wanting to do it, SO ARE YOU


But. . . but. . . we have a flag!


It's ugly. Doesn't count.




I like the idea, personally.

But I do have to wonder how many posting on here, sneered at Texas.


Going to have to grow a chin-beard now.



Fwiw: I never sneered at Texas.

I feel they should be able to go their own way if they want to. I just think they talk very loudly about it at times but it's always grandstanding while people in Cascadia are quietly laying the groundwork and preparing here for a viable nation in the future if that had to happen for whatever reason.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
Since I'm basically evil (based on 5 years of replies here
) I want to become the Evil Dictator of Cascadia.

I can be an evil genius and have the population as my slave-army bent on world domination.



"Basically" evil?

I think you need to go reread the religious parents thread.

Brah.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: Simmderdown

originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: JadeStar

Your OP says nothing of 100% of "cascadia" land was stolen from 100's of indigenous tribes from 1804 thru present day.

Are "cascadians" going to the Hague to answer for MASSIVE crimes against humanity?


Well they did name the Red Skins after them, come on what do you want


Wrong Washington. (Facepalm)



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: beezzer
Since I'm basically evil (based on 5 years of replies here
) I want to become the Evil Dictator of Cascadia.

I can be an evil genius and have the population as my slave-army bent on world domination.



"Basically" evil?

I think you need to go reread the religious parents thread.




Brah.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That caused such a huge laugh that the dog even looked at me!


edit on 20-8-2015 by beezzer because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:25 PM
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So you are perfectly ok with your taxes going to the NSA to spy on you as if you already lived in a foreign nation.


Yes, the reason I don't want to be forced to live in a fledgling country is because I enjoy having the NSA waste tax dollars.

I'm open to the idea, but I have yet to see any documentation that's swayed me. It's a sort of nice idea, but at the moment I don't think it's a great one. I'm not sure it's realistic.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Domo1




I'm open to the idea, but I have yet to see any documentation that's swayed me.


The flag swayed me.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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If you have the time here is a trailer then the link to the film


Occupied Cascadia' film examining the severity of our cultural & environmental crisis. It aims to explore the concept of bioregionalism as well as a deeper inquiry into what is actually needed for humanity to curb planetary collapse & catastrophe for survival.


Published in 2012

Occupied Cascadia

Trailer


and the film



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: Simmderdown

To get out...


Why you dont like the Red Skins?, Would you rather have some blankets
edit on 20-8-2015 by Simmderdown because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: Simmderdown

originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: JadeStar

Your OP says nothing of 100% of "cascadia" land was stolen from 100's of indigenous tribes from 1804 thru present day.

Are "cascadians" going to the Hague to answer for MASSIVE crimes against humanity?


Well they did name the Red Skins after them, come on what do you want


Wrong Washington. (Facepalm)


NO no same premise lol its ok



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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I'm open to the idea, but I have yet to see any documentation that's swayed me. It's a sort of nice idea, but at the moment I don't think it's a great one. I'm not sure it's realistic.


That's kind of where I'm at with it. Some days, I'd be all for it, others...not so much. Circumstance will, as usual, guide me.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 11:13 PM
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Those of us in the middle are tired of you trying to impose your lifestyles on us


Ha, we're tired of having all the stupid, regressive crap being pushed on us like guns everywhere, theocracy, massive military spending while cutting all benefits to the people, the war on science, war on women, war on sex, etc.



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



Those of us in the middle are tired of you trying to impose your lifestyles on us


Ha, we're tired of having all the stupid, regressive crap being pushed on us like guns everywhere, theocracy, massive military spending while cutting all benefits to the people, the war on science, war on women, war on sex, etc.


Its the pacific north west, there would still be guns everywhere, trust me on that one



posted on Aug, 20 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: JadeStar

Yep. Automatically citizens, who get to pay taxes. It's a nice neat way to solve the problem. Just make sure the new borders are secured so it doesn't become a problem again in the future.



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